[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

[Moshe Gariani]

(the best part of 10 years).

She worked there for the majority of a decade. FACT.

 

[Brian Munich]

I agree, so I don't find our history disgraceful. I think Britain did more good than most.

That's just bollocks.

 

[Triggaaar]

I wish that was true, sadly it isn’t.

So which global empires did nothing wrong?

 

[Triggaaar]

She worked there for the majority of a decade. FACT.

But it's misleading to say that when it's only half of the decade 5.5 years).

 

[Triggaaar]

That's just bollocks.

Please tell me of the other empires that were better for the conquered nations.

 

[SouthSaxon]

So which global empires did nothing wrong?

Please tell me of the other empires that were better for the conquered nations.

It’s probably best to avoid debating the impact of Imperialism using simplistic league tables.

Many people attempt to paint the British Empire as a benign civilising force for good. It’s a position which doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

 

[Brian Munich]

Please tell me of the other empires that were better for the conquered nations.

You're using whataboutery to try and justify that our colonial past wasn't a disgrace. It's not worth the argument.

 

[Triggaaar]

Many people attempt to paint the British Empire as a benign civilising force for good. It’s a position which doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

Yeah that's not what I did. As far as I can tell, all empires committed atrocities. The British empire also did good things, like ban the slave trade on the seas. I don't think painting the British Empire as worse than the others is accurate.

 

[Triggaaar]

It's not worth the argument.

Ok.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Yeah that's not what I did. As far as I can tell, all empires committed atrocities. The British empire also did good things, like ban the slave trade on the seas. I don't think painting the British Empire as worse than the others is accurate.

That doesn't fit with the current narrative that Britain is awful and everything it's done is awful and should pay out reparations.

Britain clearly has done some appalling things, but as you say most other empire building countries did.

But let's not ignore the good

 

[Albion my Albion]

The idiot says "Get back on topic! ME!"

 

[vegster]

Agree with your sentiment.

Seeing as Netenyahu and Israel appear to be working together and in total agreement with Trumps dreams for Gaza, perhaps even leading the way on them, do you think it's also time for UK to review its relationship and agreements with that nation?

Not sure that we have many agreements with Israel but, yes if the ludicrous Gaza land rob goes ahead.

 

[Is it PotG?]

 

[BadFish]

So anecdotally on social media it seems like people are pointing to a victory over 'woke' as the main benefit of a Trump government.

Given that we never really managed to define what woke means it seems the culture wars have been won. The victory being that people have been persuaded that a undefined notion has rocketed to the top of people's priorities. Above the cost of living, the constitution, facism, the environment and all the rest of it .

At some point people will study this era and be aghast at how we fell for this shit. Much like us, when we learned about yhe lead up to WWII I suppose.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I agree, so I don't find our history disgraceful. I think Britain did more good than most.

I agree. Sometimes Monty Python's 'whatever good did the Roman's do for us?' is cross-transferable.

 

[armchairclubber]

¼Not sure that we have many agreements with Israel but, yes if the ludicrous Gaza land rob goes ahead.

It would appear they are doubling down on their plans.
Yes, the UK has many agreements with Israel, both trade and defence, and does not recognise Palestine. It's position on Israels land rob, who has also obliterated Gaza, is far from consistent with Russia.

Netanyahu says Israel working closely with US on Trump’s plan for Gaza

Israeli PM and US secretary of state express joint support for ‘bold vision’ that would force 2 million people to leave

www.theguardian.com

Netanyahu ‘committed’ to Trump’s plan to take over Gaza

Comments suggest Israeli PM will reject Hamas pledge to hand over control of territory to the PA

www.theguardian.com

 

[Insel affe]

It would appear they are doubling down on their plans.
Yes, the UK has many agreements with Israel, both trade and defence, and does not recognise Palestine. It's position on Israels land rob, who has also obliterated Gaza, is far from consistent with Russia.

Netanyahu says Israel working closely with US on Trump’s plan for Gaza

Israeli PM and US secretary of state express joint support for ‘bold vision’ that would force 2 million people to leave

www.theguardian.com

Netanyahu ‘committed’ to Trump’s plan to take over Gaza

Comments suggest Israeli PM will reject Hamas pledge to hand over control of territory to the PA

www.theguardian.com

I knew it was a land grab from the minute they started shelling and obliterating peoples homes in Gaza and Palestine.
So much going unreported now, about farmers having their land taken from them and arrested.
I am beginning to hate Israel, and that is not healthy, god knows how the locals feel, I would be apoplectic with rage and hatred.

 

[Insel affe]

America sitting round a table in a dictators country talking with another dictator about how to carve up the Ukraine without them being present and ignoring Europe who this also directly affects is sickening.
How has the world come to this, I am glad I am in the twilight of my years, but fear for my daughter.

Feck this world and rich, greed tw@ts like Trump, Putin & Netanyahu, the axis of evil...

 

[armchairclubber]

So much going unreported now

Absolutely, Starmer and the British nations focus now, with its media, must be on 'peacekeeping' and getting troops into Ukraine.

Edit: Sarcasm contained.

 

[Cordwainer]

I knew it was a land grab from the minute they started shelling and obliterating peoples homes in Gaza and Palestine.
So much going unreported now, about framers having their land taken from them and arrested.
I am beginning to hate Israel, and that is not healthy, god knows how the locals feel, I would be apoplectic with rage and hatred.

Not the framers as well?! Scenes.
(Apologies..I know this is a serious issue and sarcasm is the lowest form of wit etc)