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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .


marlowe

Well-known member
Dec 13, 2015
4,495
It's almost like he's intentionally trying to provoke a violent reaction from Hamas just to give him an excuse to send the troops in. First he takes all the credit for the ceasefire and now he seems to be doing everything he can to derail it just so he can blame Hamas.

He's using the Israeli hostages as pawns in his masterplan and doesn't care that he's jeopardising their potential release.

With the situation he's created he wins either way. If the hostages are released by Saturdays deadline he will of course take full credit and bolsters his image as someone whose tough stance achieves results. If the hostages aren't released he gets what he really wants which is an excuse to escalate more forceful military action so he can send people in to clear Gaza
 




marlowe

Well-known member
Dec 13, 2015
4,495
'Trump' metal straws will be selling for 10,000 a pop.
When those who voted for him look on enviously at the rich drinking through their metal straws while they have to suffer the burden of having to manoeuvre their drinking cups all the way to their dribbling lips maybe that will be the thing that makes them finally wake up and realise what a mistake they made in voting for him.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
Jan 11, 2016
26,720
West is BEST
This is just bizarre on so many levels.

And he constantly carries his kid everywhere now. Presumably to put off any would be assassins?

 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,370
Why don`t you postulate the shit show starmer is making of this government , and the systematic dismantling of this country as a great nation ? .
I will if that happens.
 


Klaas

I've changed this
Nov 1, 2017
2,700
"The billionaire stood next to the Resolute Desk, where Trump sat as he signed the executive orders, wearing a black “Dark Maga” hat and accompanied by his young son, who is named X. While Musk responded to reporters, Trump was busy staring at the boy with amusement."

The leaders of the free world ladies and gentlemen.
 




n1 gull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
4,678
Hurstpierpoint


Albion my Albion

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 6, 2016
20,419
Indiana, USA
"The billionaire stood next to the Resolute Desk, where Trump sat as he signed the executive orders, wearing a black “Dark Maga” hat and accompanied by his young son, who is named X. While Musk responded to reporters, Trump was busy staring at the boy with amusement."

The leaders of the free world ladies and gentlemen.

Most criminals and murderers start with low level crime. Trump learned discrimination, eligibilty and interference with immigrants (DEI) at a young age from his father.
 


Peteinblack

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NSC Patron
Jun 3, 2004
4,275
Bath, Somerset.
Why don`t you postulate the shit show starmer is making of this government , and the systematic dismantling of this country as a great nation ? .
I dislike Starmer, but I think if you remove your blue-tinted spectacles, you'll see that "the systematic dismantling of this country as a great nation" has been occurring since the 1980s, due to ideologically-driven policies which have:

* undermined British civic institutions which Ministers dislike for political reasons, or because they are not deemed profitable (cultural or social value are no longer respected) - BBC, Church of England, civil service, universities, etc
* destroyed working-class jobs and are now doing the same to the middle-class
* handed our industries over to corporate elites, greedy shareholders and foreign governments
* vastly increased the wealth (and blackmail power) of business leaders, bankers and large shareholders but without the promised 'trickle-down' of that wealth
* created a regime of unaffordable housing which is enriching buy-to-let landlords exploiting desperate tenants often living in sub-standard or dangerous conditions
* transformed our public services into inefficient top-heavy over-bureaucratised quasi-businesses
* saddled graduates with £10,000s of debt for a university-education which was previously free
* repeatedly increased the power of employers over workers in the name of 'labour market flexibility'.
* regularly attacked and insulted welfare recipients while turning a blind eye to the very much larger sums of money lost via corporate tax evasion
* promoted ignorance over intelligence, and emotions over evidence - "sick of experts"
* persuaded millions of British people that voting to leave our largest trading partner and major funder of infrastructure and regeneration projects in run-down regions would make us stronger and more prosperous.

But, hey, keep blaming Starmer and Labour for the destructive and divisive policies of the last 45 years - cos Britain was absolutely thriving as a land of milk-and-honey and happy-clappy citizens until last July!
 
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Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,493
Worthing
Do English people get as triggered over La Manche or the German sea?
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Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,934
"The billionaire stood next to the Resolute Desk, where Trump sat as he signed the executive orders, wearing a black “Dark Maga” hat and accompanied by his young son, who is named X. While Musk responded to reporters, Trump was busy staring at the boy with amusement."

The leaders of the free world ladies and gentlemen.
I'd be checking their hard drives, TBH.
 


FamilyGuy

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
2,586
Crawley
It's almost like he's intentionally trying to provoke a violent reaction from Hamas just to give him an excuse to send the troops in. First he takes all the credit for the ceasefire and now he seems to be doing everything he can to derail it just so he can blame Hamas.

He's using the Israeli hostages as pawns in his masterplan and doesn't care that he's jeopardising their potential release.

With the situation he's created he wins either way. If the hostages are released by Saturdays deadline he will of course take full credit and bolsters his image as someone whose tough stance achieves results. If the hostages aren't released he gets what he really wants which is an excuse to escalate more forceful military action so he can send people in to clear Gaza
You're missing the point.

He wont send people in, he'll tell Netenyahoo (sp?) to "send people in" - that way he's in the clear either way.

Trump has no plan other than to try to bully everyone, and its about time somebody stood up to his bullshit. Because until they do, Trump will simply get more deranged by the day.
 


FamilyGuy

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
2,586
Crawley
I postulated that there might be a major political Civil War or mass disobedience if Trump pushes his looney policies too far. Americans are tied hand and foot to their Constitution and I could see many refusing to obey Trump's orders if they conflict with those rules.

For instance, take Trump's ludicrous Gaza ambitions. Would US servicemen obey orders to enter Gaza and forcefully eject Palestinians in order for Trump to own Gaza as his " Real Estate " ? Would military planners resign or refuse to organise this illegal intervention ?

Trump is obviously quite mad but eventually " something " will need to be done.
Trump has said on several occasions that "no US soldiers will be involved", and that "Gaza will be given to the USA, not bought" (he doesn't say who's going to give it to him though).

So in his plans 2 million people from Gaza one day simply send him a tweet that says "here it is Trump, here's our country, we're off now to live somewhere else, its all yours to make into a Riviera"

That'll work.
 




Peteinblack

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jun 3, 2004
4,275
Bath, Somerset.










Bakero

Languidly clinical
Oct 9, 2010
15,278
Almería
I dislike Starmer, but I think if you remove your blue-tinted spectacles, you'll see that "the systematic dismantling of this country as a great nation" has been occurring since the 1980s, due to ideologically-driven policies which have:

* undermined British civic institutions which Ministers dislike for political reasons, or because they are not deemed profitable (cultural or social value are no longer respected) - BBC, Church of England, civil service, universities, etc
* destroyed working-class jobs and are now doing the same to the middle-class
* handed our industries over to corporate elites, greedy shareholders and foreign governments
* vastly increased the wealth (and blackmail power) of business leaders, bankers and large shareholders but without the promised 'trickle-down' of that wealth
* created a regime of unaffordable housing which is enriching buy-to-let landlords exploiting desperate tenants often living in sub-standard or dangerous conditions
* transformed our public services into inefficient top-heavy over-bureaucratised quasi-businesses
* saddled graduates with £10,000s of debt for a university-education which was previously free
* repeatedly increased the power of employers over workers in the name of 'labour market flexibility'.
* regularly attacked and insulted welfare recipients while turning a blind eye to the very much larger sums of money lost via corporate tax evasion
* promoted ignorance over intelligence, and emotions over evidence - "sick of experts"
* persuaded millions of British people that voting to leave our largest trading partner and major funder of infrastructure and regeneration projects in run-down regions would make us stronger and more prosperous.

But, hey, keep blaming Starmer and Labour for the destructive and divisive policies of the last 45 years - cos Britain was absolutely thriving as a land of milk-and-honey and happy-clappy citizens until last July!

Perhaps if you could condense this into a 3-word slogan, it'd gain more traction
 




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