Do you trust the police

[Buzzer]

Army is just the same as the Police - Thankless and no mony to equip us.

I applaud you for your admission

Join the Army? Not for me. I come from a nation of warriors but I'm a lover not a fighter.

Seriously, hats off to anyone who joins the Armed Services. They really are lions led by donkeys (the government that is - not the top brass).

 

[H block]

I don't have faith in them but i do believe they should carry guns.Is that to hard to understand

yes

 

[Yorkie]

I work for the CPS and will back Edna on this.

Malicious accusers do get charged. I was at Lewes Crown Court a couple of months ago to see a girl sent down for 3 months for perverting the course of justice by false allegations of rape against her boyfriend.
Forensic proved that she had been in his bed in his flat and yet she still alleged that he raped her in an alleyway.
The police and the CPS did a lot of hard work investigating the case and he didn't stand trial although unfortunately he did spend time in custody.

As Smudge said there are good coppers and bad coppers. I wouldn't trust all of them but most of them do a decent enough job.

 

[blue'n'white]

Seriously - I don't know what the answer is.

Yes to National Service for all those who are 16-25 and unemployed for more than a year. Voluntary work for all long-term and able-bodied unemployed.

More visible punishments. Asbo-holders being made to wear pink outfits and clean chewing gum off pavements on saturdays.

A change in culture where we start respecting other people's privacy. A culture that recognises that we all have responsibilities as well as our rights. In fact a new bill of Human Responsibilities that runs parallel and is as powerful as the Human Rights Act.

Not sure about guns.

Pubs and clubs made to contribute towards policing of town centres at weekends.

Less emphasis on penalising motorists and other soft targets.

Legalising and licensing of most class A/B/C drugs and prostitution with proceeds going towards policing this.

Just some thoughts


Amen to all that !!!!!!

 

[H block]

The problem is we tend to base it all on personals experiences. I`m sure though I would turn to them if needed but I have had some bad experiences of the police over-reacting to some pretty innocuous events.

 

[algie]

Army is just the same as the Police - Thankless and no mony to equip us.

I applaud you for your admission

Was it Labour who brought in bullet count or not?

 

[H block]

Seriously - I don't know what the answer is.

Yes to National Service for all those who are 16-25 and unemployed for more than a year. Voluntary work for all long-term and able-bodied unemployed.

More visible punishments. Asbo-holders being made to wear pink outfits and clean chewing gum off pavements on saturdays.

A change in culture where we start respecting other people's privacy. A culture that recognises that we all have responsibilities as well as our rights. In fact a new bill of Human Responsibilities that runs parallel and is as powerful as the Human Rights Act.

Not sure about guns.

Pubs and clubs made to contribute towards policing of town centres at weekends.

Less emphasis on penalising motorists and other soft targets.

Legalising and licensing of most class A/B/C drugs and prostitution with proceeds going towards policing this.

Just some thoughts


Amen to all that !!!!!!

some fair points there.I do despair of the resources ploughed into detecting those who fancy a little of something on the exotic side, yet week in and week out we let people get absolutely plastered and kick seven barrels of shit out of each other.

 

[army ali]

Was it Labour who brought in bullet count or not?

The Govt of the day my friend!

Borrow off Peter to pay Paul.

It is only now that the wind of change is blowing our way and public perception of us is now a supportive one.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I went to court over a road rage incident following a dust up and because the other chap - who was abusive and instagated it - came off worse, I was charged. It was pathetic why it went to court, but lucky for me the magistrates saw sense. I have little faith in the police I`m afraid.

How many times!

It's not the police who decide to charge you! What part of this do you people not understand?

To be brutally honest, the police probably thought it was as much of a load of crap as you did, and I'd bet a small fortune that the investigating officer was deeply depressed at even having to bother.

At risk of sounding like an old git, that incident you described was probably the sort of thing in which all parties needed nothing more than to be told to take a deep breath and stop being stupid- road rage, FFS! In fact it probably didn't even need the police to be there, but sadly, we get called to these things, and we don't get to decide "nah, it's crap, we won't bother". I wish we could!

 

[H block]

How many times!

It's not the police who decide to charge you! What part of this do you people not understand?

To be brutally honest, the police probably thought it was as much of a load of crap as you did, and I'd bet a small fortune that the investigating officer was deeply depressed at even having to bother.

At risk of sounding like an old git, that incident you described was probably the sort of thing in which all parties needed nothing more than to be told to take a deep breath and stop being stupid- road rage, FFS! In fact it probably didn't even need the police to be there, but sadly, we get called to these things, and we don't get to decide "nah, it's crap, we won't bother". I wish we could!

Ok Edna but they arrested me not him. That was not the CPS. Because he got his phone call in first. He sat at home whilst I spent 5 hours in nick.

Looking back I am glad I twatted him though.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

You know what, that's what it comes down to sometimes. Who gets the phone call in first.

We can't investigate counter allegations while the initial complaint is still being looked at (unless it would completely disprove it, clearly), therefore whoever calls first goes down as the aggrieved party.

Daft, but there's no way around it.

Speaking of malicious allegations, anyone see that stalker case last week where the woman stalker accused the man she was stalking of rape? Can't remember if it got to court, but he was certainly arrested.

She went through his bins, found a used condom, and wiped it on her clothes. Then called police and said he'd raped her, using the DNA evidence all over her to back it up.

It was only dropped late on when further forensic evidence found another woman's DNA present, presumably his girlfriend's. Then they worked out what must have happened. This all in addition to harassing him and his wife by text, calling various companies and cancelling his wedding arrangements, sending nasty letters and so on.

How scary is is that someone would go to those lengths to stitch you up?

 

[Bry Nylon]

British police force? The best police force in the world, without question.

I'm not in the police, but I work with police officers at close quarters, and they are a top notch bunch of men and women.

 

[El Presidente]

Ask FRANK

 

[British Bulldog]

Having just had this conversation with the older bulldog his view is "the only coppers you can trust are the community support officers, they want to help you and stop you getting in trouble, the others look for trouble and a reason to arrest you"

Thats avoice of a teenager not mine.

 

[Napper]

not sussex police no , bumch of small time , finickey small timers

Have more faith in the Met.

 

[byf]

Wankers the lot of them..enough said!

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Having just had this conversation with the older bulldog his view is "the only coppers you can trust are the community support officers, they want to help you and stop you getting in trouble, the others look for trouble and a reason to arrest you"

Thats avoice of a teenager not mine.

It might be a good idea, not to give them a reason to arrest?

 

[Tricky Dicky]

You know what, that's what it comes down to sometimes. Who gets the phone call in first.

We can't investigate counter allegations while the initial complaint is still being looked at (unless it would completely disprove it, clearly), therefore whoever calls first goes down as the aggrieved party.

Daft, but there's no way around it.

Speaking of malicious allegations, anyone see that stalker case last week where the woman stalker accused the man she was stalking of rape? Can't remember if it got to court, but he was certainly arrested.

She went through his bins, found a used condom, and wiped it on her clothes. Then called police and said he'd raped her, using the DNA evidence all over her to back it up.

It was only dropped late on when further forensic evidence found another woman's DNA present, presumably his girlfriend's. Then they worked out what must have happened. This all in addition to harassing him and his wife by text, calling various companies and cancelling his wedding arrangements, sending nasty letters and so on.

How scary is is that someone would go to those lengths to stitch you up?

Didn't she get sentenced to 9 months or something last week ?

Out of curiosity Edna - how do you judge "about to cmmit a crime", is that like "going equipped" etc. ?

 

[Commander]

Seriously - I don't know what the answer is.

Yes to National Service for all those who are 16-25 and unemployed for more than a year. Voluntary work for all long-term and able-bodied unemployed.

More visible punishments. Asbo-holders being made to wear pink outfits and clean chewing gum off pavements on saturdays.

A change in culture where we start respecting other people's privacy. A culture that recognises that we all have responsibilities as well as our rights. In fact a new bill of Human Responsibilities that runs parallel and is as powerful as the Human Rights Act.

Not sure about guns.

Pubs and clubs made to contribute towards policing of town centres at weekends.

Less emphasis on penalising motorists and other soft targets.

Legalising and licensing of most class A/B/C drugs and prostitution with proceeds going towards policing this.

Just some thoughts.

Buzzer, I think I agree with every word of that.

 

[surrey jim]

No, not since our house was broken into and it took the OB two days to get round,


do 31mph in a 30mph limit however and theyre always there