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- Feb 6, 2006
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You dont really know that do you.
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Dick Knight's Gotta Go
- Thread starter Mr Burns
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You dont really know that do you.
Brian Fantana
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How do you know that?....
The answer is that you bloody well don't. So have a f***ing day off.
Mr Burns
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He did. He also Signed Glenn Murray without consulting Wilkins. The first thing Wilkins knew about Murray is joining us, was when Knight introduced him at training.
He also sold Dean Hammond against Wilkins wishes, which had a lot to do with the argument that hurt Dicks ego and eventually lead to Wilknis downfall. You can believe it was man management skills or dropping gates if you thats what you want to hear.
As, I've said before, I have contacts at the heart of the club, and find out a lot about what goes on, which is why I told you all Micky Adams was going by Mutal Consent if he didn't walk, 5 days before it was announced.
I'm not against Dick Knight because of our league position. I'm against him for what he has become. He treats managers like shit, which is why he is struggling to appoint someone now. You f*** over McGhee, Taylor, Wilkins, Adams, and bullshit Coppell, in the end you are going to struggle to find people who will take the risk and work with you.
THis is the position we are finding ourseleves in now. That and most managers want control over the players they sign, something Dick Knight has never allowed his managers.
This is a stupid thread.
Those who are bankrolling the club obviously back DK else there wouldn't have been the spending pre-season and in January.
There is no evidence of millionaires queuing up to invest in the club. If there were and DK was obstructing them then Mr Burns would have a point. There there isn't and he doesn't.
Those who are bankrolling the club obviously back DK else there wouldn't have been the spending pre-season and in January.
There is no evidence of millionaires queuing up to invest in the club. If there were and DK was obstructing them then Mr Burns would have a point. There there isn't and he doesn't.
fosters headband
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I think one of the clue's is, that the club stated that he (Wikins) failed to get on with the new signings.
This could be that Wilkins never knew or wanted them in the first place.
Brian Fantana
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Or maybe they didn't turn out to be the characters or type of players that Wilkins hoped? Maybe HE made an error of judgement and not DK?
Equally as plausible in my view.
Hoops Seagull
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- Nov 17, 2008
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12 years ago, a man living upto his surname, a Knight in shining armour (see what I done there) rescued this club from oblivion. He united everyone, and put the Albion on the map.
Now the same man is unfortunately living up to his first name... DICK. Because that is what he has become. A total Dick, and whereas before when he United the club and fans, he is now tearing it apart.
Because of this mans ego, he sacked one of the games most promising young managers, and replaced him with a man who has done nothing in the game for years now. This is not me talking with hindsight, I said this would happen when he sacked Wilkins in the summer, and brought back the has been that is Micky Adams. The fact we are in the position we are in, is no surprise to me whatsoever.
I think people have got to drag themselves out of the past. Yes he saved the club, someone else probably would have if he hadn't, but lets be fair he has to take credit for that.
But that was a long time ago. What he has done in the past 10 months as been nothing short of scandalous, and if it wasn't for what he done in the past, Dick Knight would have been hounded out of this club a long time ago. He as removed a promising manager , in very a unpleasant way, a man who looked like pushing on this year and has put us in the position we are in now.
I think a lot of people on here have got to accept, this man is years past his sell by date, and one of his last actions at this club is to get us relegated to the basement division for only the third time in our history.
Make no mistake, we are going down. We can all pretend its not going to happen, and the squads to good, but the results speak for themselves.
Thanks for the memories Dick.
Shut the door on your way out.
I think you have put this really well; yes he was a knight in shining armour but now his armour has dropped and all we seem to see of him now is a Dick!
Coppell, McGee, Taylor all have done well since leaving. Of all the managers since Knight became chairman have not spoken out about anything accept for Adams ( the first time he went). It makes me wonder about a silence clause in the pay offs.
It doesn't matter if Wilkins is not working as a manager - as has already been said in this thread he like Chapman, Cattlin are BHA through and thorough, one club men, if you cut them they would bleed blue and white ( and I don't mean Dean White).
One day the truth will come out when Knight is gone I only hope he goes before we all truly forget him in a good light.
zoogull
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Why did they give Adams license to make all these signings in the transfer window, then sack him weeks later?
Anyone coming in is going to have to work with:
a) a re-built squad which are yet to gel together,
b) possible low morale because the man who brought them in has been shown the door,
c) a team in the bottom 4,
d) a very unhappy fan base,
and a chairman who seems quite happy to change the manager as often as the team changes their kit.
Anyone coming in is going to have to work with:
a) a re-built squad which are yet to gel together,
b) possible low morale because the man who brought them in has been shown the door,
c) a team in the bottom 4,
d) a very unhappy fan base,
and a chairman who seems quite happy to change the manager as often as the team changes their kit.
British Bulldog
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- Feb 6, 2006
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I'm not exactly Dick Knight's greatest fan myself at the moment but bhadeb really is starting to sound like a scratched record, The words " attention seeker " spring to mind.
fosters headband
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I don't know if you have noticed but DK will hold his hands up to finding successful player's like Zamora, which was always contested by Adams.
He also claimed that due to a close friend he found Kazim Richards.
I feel he has an over involvement in who comes here and who goes.
Whenever the talk of new players are comming or leaving the club it is always from DK. How many other clubs do you hear the chairman and not the manager talking about these subjects?
Mr Burns
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Mr Burns
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I wouldn't want him to go totally.
For what he's done for us in the past, he deserves to be involved in the club for the rest of his life, I would never want to deney him that, and would love to see him there on the first day at Falmer, but I think as chairman, the past few years, and in particular the total balls up he has made of it this season, he needs to step aside for the good of the club.
I know where you are coming come and to be honest it's a tough call.I don't mind Knight sorting out contracts,signing players etc but if he is interfering with teams matters then that has to stop.Knight is very shrewed with money and we need that at our club.
Storer68
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Just remember that knight offered Wilkins a three year extension to his contract which he accepted. Can't have thought he was that bad a manager then
Wilkins agrees new Seagulls deal
Wilkins was appointed full-time manager in September
Brighton manager Dean Wilkins has agreed a three-year deal with chairman Dick Knight.
Wilkins' current contract expires in June and Knight told the club's official website: "This gives both Dean and the club some stability.
"He and I will now begin planning for to mount a serious challenge to get back to the Championship."
Wilkins added: "I'm extremely proud and my passion and desire to make our club successful remains as strong as ever."
Wilkins agrees new Seagulls deal
Wilkins was appointed full-time manager in September
Brighton manager Dean Wilkins has agreed a three-year deal with chairman Dick Knight.
Wilkins' current contract expires in June and Knight told the club's official website: "This gives both Dean and the club some stability.
"He and I will now begin planning for to mount a serious challenge to get back to the Championship."
Wilkins added: "I'm extremely proud and my passion and desire to make our club successful remains as strong as ever."
blue and white army
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Some people really do talk a load of DRIVEL on here, without realising the rammifications of what they say, 'Lets sack the chairman' as he's in the process of appoiniting a new manager, just really infuriates me 
Hoops Seagull
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Do you think that this was until Wilkins stood up to Knight over his involvement in players etc.?
Did he think that Dean Wilkins would be as much as yes man as Dean White?
This is where Knight is going wrong if this is what he is doing, as was said in a previous post, at what other club is it the chairman that announces the players leaving and joining the club -normally its the manager!
Albion Dan
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The original post in this thread is hard to disagree with. If we get relegated the buck stops right at the feet of Dick Knight who bought in an ex manager who had been struggling in the game for the last 5 years and turned out to be a total disaster.
All this Wilkins man management crap is nonsense. You dont get a team of kids the odd seasoned pro to 7th if things are that bad. Adams has been given ten times the resources that Wilkins got and has taken us to the verge of relegation whilst destroying our squad in the process.
If we go down, and if we lose Saturday I fully expect us to, then we have come full f***ing circle from when Dick Knight took over. Back in the basement when this squad should have been in the play offs minimum this season. In my opinion that makes Knights position untennable.
All this Wilkins man management crap is nonsense. You dont get a team of kids the odd seasoned pro to 7th if things are that bad. Adams has been given ten times the resources that Wilkins got and has taken us to the verge of relegation whilst destroying our squad in the process.
If we go down, and if we lose Saturday I fully expect us to, then we have come full f***ing circle from when Dick Knight took over. Back in the basement when this squad should have been in the play offs minimum this season. In my opinion that makes Knights position untennable.
Pavilionaire
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I can't sympathise that much with Knight's position while I'm in the dark about where it all went wrong with Wilkins.
The bottom line is I don't want to pay top dollar to watch shit football and suffer the Withdean week in, week out unless it means something. The football wasn't brilliant with Wilkins but at least he was having some success with an exciting generation of home grown youngsters. The prospect of watching a load of journeymen and panic loan signings try and grind out a hoofball 1-0 win depresses me intensely.
The bottom line is I don't want to pay top dollar to watch shit football and suffer the Withdean week in, week out unless it means something. The football wasn't brilliant with Wilkins but at least he was having some success with an exciting generation of home grown youngsters. The prospect of watching a load of journeymen and panic loan signings try and grind out a hoofball 1-0 win depresses me intensely.
Yes i do - know someone close enough to say that Dean didn't know
I don't know why some people think that i tell lies stir trouble or am attention seeking
What would that gain nothing - i love this club like all of us do and to see where we were last may and where we are now it breaks my heart - i'm sure that most people will agree with that
All i can hope is I hope we stay up it would be awful to be relegated.
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