David Burke

[spring hall convert]

Didn't Burke find Rohan Ince (for free)?

He's made us about £5m there.

 

[spanish flair]

Listen in and find out.

Not sure what your point is, though.

If you played at the highest level then I would think you have a greater understanding of what makes a good player/professional, like Mervyn Day who works for him. The guy who did the same job for Oscar at his previous club was Jordi Cruyff and we know he played at the highest level.
So I was just interested at what level DB played himself.

 

[n1 gull]

Which ever way you look at it we have all known we have been short up front.
We struggle to score goals and this has been further highlighted by Crofts absence, I don't think it's unfair to challenge the guy in charge of recruitment on these issues?

 

[JBenno]

If you played at the highest level then I would think you have a greater understanding of what makes a good player/professional, like Mervyn Day who works for him. The guy who did the same job for Oscar at his previous club was Jordi Cruyff and we know he played at the highest level.
So I was just interested at what level DB played himself.

And to what level did Jose Mourinho 'play the game' ?

 

[keaton]

No judgement is clouded. Tonight was frustrating - god awful in the first half but improved in the second half.

Burke has made good signings, remember he pretty much signed all those last season too. This season the budget is tighter because of FFP. New signings havent bedded in yet and will need time, something must be up with Agustien behind the scenes too.

There is nothing wrong with Burke.

According to Bloom and Barber our budget is bigger this season

 

[Bwian]

Burke started his job in Jan 2012. He was in place for the Summer signings of 2012 so presumably behind helping Gus and then Oscar sign for example >>
Kuz, Ulloa, Orlandi, Lopez, Crofts, Dobbie, Ward, Chicksen, Ince, Obika, Andrews, Agustien, Stephens, Hammond, Bridge, (loan) Conway, Orlandi and Upson.

I'd say thats a pretty good strike rate. And obviously he's identified a whole raft of players that for whatever reasons Gus or Oscar didn't want to proceed with or because our valuation didn't match with the player/agents or clubs valuation.
Our player budget went up 40% or so in 2012/13 and a further 5-10% in 2013/14.

Yes Vicente (who's retired and never played), Bridge (injured most of this season), and Bridcutt (perhaps adequately replaced) have left but also a long line of now League 1 or lesser Champ players or worse; Cook, El Abd, Dicker, Painter, Elphick, Barker, Adgenstein etc.

Be off with you and your sensible contribution to what is essentially a load of bollocks thread.

 

[nwgull]

I don't see the relevance of Burke's playing career either. It doesn't require a man to have played at the top level to be able to manage a team of scouts and negotiate contracts. Many of the game's most successful managers had very modest playing careers.

I like what he's doing with the DS: Signing young players released from the top clubs, or young stars from lower league clubs where they've already shown promise at league 1-2 level. This isn't going to result in overnight success, but it's already looking promising with Ince being a good example of success from the first one, and Chicksen a good example of the second.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I considered Andrews to be a replacement for Hammond and Agustien a replacement for Dicker.

So did David Burke. Anyone who listened properly to him on the Roar would know that.

I agree partly with Walt that Poyet himself - both as a salesman and a name in the British game - would have been an attraction in the past. I also think that these supposedly poor players have got us to the verge of the playoffs and the FA Cup fifth round. This was par for Poyet even with his superstars and with far fewer injuries. This place goes mental after a couple of defeats.

 

[Hotchilidog]

I just feel he is maybe out of his depth, because he has never held a job this big before.
Most of his previous posts have been dealing with 15-21 year olds and never held a position where he is in control of all football operations, including player transfer negotiations at a club.

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/david-burke/22/225/998

Oh yes, it's not like Southampton are big club is it. He has plenty of experience. He knows a hell of a lot more about football than the posters on here.

 

[KZNSeagull]

According to Bloom and Barber our budget is bigger this season

It is bigger but i don't think that is the issue. I suspect that one major part of it is that PL clubs want loan clubs to pay all the wages of the player and we are not prepared to pay PL wages for a player who cannot get anywhere near an average PL teams squad of 25, particularly as it would certainly blow our existing wage structure apart.

 

[nwgull]

Oh yes, it's not like Southampton are big club is it. He has plenty of experience. He knows a hell of a lot more about football than the posters on here.

Yeh, but what have Southampton done in terms of producing young talent in British football?

*please read the above in a sarcastic, ironic 'what have the Romans done for us' type way.

 

[Bob!]

I can assure you it's the manager.

Poyet got the MAXIMUM out of Vicente and bridge (players who had lost their passion for the gAme).

That won't EVER happen under Oscar and jones.

Poyet would have Kemy ripping teams apart.

Like he did with Dobbie, Vokes.......

 

[The Large One]

If you played at the highest level then I would think you have a greater understanding of what makes a good player/professional, like Mervyn Day who works for him. The guy who did the same job for Oscar at his previous club was Jordi Cruyff and we know he played at the highest level.

Far too simplistic a consideration.

You may have a better understanding of what is required by yourself if you have played at a high level, but it doesn't necessarily follow that you will know how to be a great coach/manager/talent-spotter. Hardly any of the England 1966 World Cup winning side made it as great managers (Jack Charlton probably had most success - some were downright failures). Conversely, Arsene Wenger and Jose Mourinho are two examples are the top of my head whose playing careers were hardly glittering.

So I was just interested at what level DB played himself.

Listen in and find out.

 

[Bold Seagull]

I can assure you it's the manager.

Poyet got the MAXIMUM out of Vicente and bridge (players who had lost their passion for the gAme).

That won't EVER happen under Oscar and jones.

Poyet would have Kemy ripping teams apart.

Yes, because Poyet simply got the best out of Chris Wood, Craig Noone, Sam Vokes, Stephen Dobbie, didn't rate Murray (don't mention it anymore...)...Got the best out of Vicente - if it hadn't been for Poyet's own ego we'll have probably seen a lot more of Vicente than we did!!

 

[Austrian Gull]

I think Burke has to take some criticism for the signing of Agustien. Surely alarm bells should have been ringing after only a quick glance at his off-the-field activities as well as his injury problems?

 

[saafend_seagull]

Who has Oscar got the maximum out of?! Ince and....possibly crofts.

He's also turned Lopez into an awful player.

Poyet had Orlandi and Buckley playing a lot better too.

 

[Moshe Gariani]

Do you not tow the line? Toeing the line doesn't seem right.

"toe the line" is a reference to following rules

 

[The Large One]

Who has Oscar got the maximum out of?! Ince and....possibly crofts.

He's also turned Lopez into an awful player.

Poyet had Orlandi and Buckley playing a lot better too.

Him, and him alone?

So you're saying all the whining and sniping and grizzling about Spanish Dave has absolutely no value, because this is the sinister work of Oscar Garcia? Yeah... what a dirty little shitbag he is.

It may have been a different David Lopez who planted the ball on Leo's head for our goal last night, I suppose.

 

[Justice]

Signings have been poor because of the wages we are prepared to pay simple.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Who has Oscar got the maximum out of?! Ince and....possibly crofts.

He's also turned Lopez into an awful player.

Poyet had Orlandi and Buckley playing a lot better too.

Ince, Crofts and March. He has got more out of JFC than Poyet did. Upson and Greer are leading one of the meanest defenses in the country and Ulloa's scoring ratio must be the same as last season if not better. We're also not carrying a sulky Vicente. Harley and Dobbie were as bad as anyone we have left and Dean "Mr Inconsistent" Hammond has also gone.