London Irish
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Trigger said:
Yes, to accommodate people like you going to the cricket. Did you go on Sunday then Trigger?
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Yes, to accommodate people like you going to the cricket. Did you go on Sunday then Trigger?
London Irish said:
LI, get over it, you've said on at least three different threads now.
You've criticised me for 'conspiracy theories' in the past, and although you aren't suggesting one now, you are suggesting that the whole truth as not been told either.
So to use your words 'Get off the great mans back, the man who saved this club from almost certain extinction, and has put his life into it' (or words to that effect).
Albion Rob
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Bottom line stuff with McGhee here:
1. We got relegated with barely a whimper last season. The game that sealed our fate was symptomatic of almost the entire season - a toothless defeat.
2. Two decent enough 1-0 wins at the start of the season, an unfortunate draw and then a slightly harsh defeat at the start of this season. But then what? The Crewe game was as cringeworthy as I have experienced at Withdean. We could have lost that by seven or eight if Henderson hadn't made some good saves. I know being down to 10 men and chasing the game is hard but we made a dreadful fist of it. I didn't go to Bristol but heard it was abject at best. Five games into the season perhaps, but this isn't something that exiosts on its own, we have the whole of last season to loook at too.
3. Transfer work was unbelieveable. As a manager, you live or die by your players, surely? What did we have? CKR? Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth, then smashing it's teeth in and driving it to the glue factory. Turienzo? I can't remember what he looked like, let alone played like. Molango? His relevance in the stripes seems to have lasted as long as I usually do in bed. Kind of us to sign a player to give to other clubs each season though. Who pays his rent on his house down here when he's patrolling the north? I sure wouldn't want to if I was him. McCammon? Never really worked from the start but we signed him anyway only to get rid of him when we found out what we already knew. McGhee did make some ok signings but when the bad outweighs the good then people naturally start asking questions.
I also have a suspicion that DKs hand may have been slightly forced by the upcoming march. If McGhee had gone, would he have been in an awkward position. If he hadn't gone, well, that would have been unacceptable.
Sometimes in life, you just need to cut your losses and sadly that's where we got to with McGhee. No hard feelings, he didn't screw us like others have in the past, just came to the end of the line - about six months ago.
As for 'community clubs' fair enough, why not, just a shame a community eight miles down the road doesn't see us like that! Maybe we should b giving all the schools in Lewes free tickets. Hearts and minds, people.
1. We got relegated with barely a whimper last season. The game that sealed our fate was symptomatic of almost the entire season - a toothless defeat.
2. Two decent enough 1-0 wins at the start of the season, an unfortunate draw and then a slightly harsh defeat at the start of this season. But then what? The Crewe game was as cringeworthy as I have experienced at Withdean. We could have lost that by seven or eight if Henderson hadn't made some good saves. I know being down to 10 men and chasing the game is hard but we made a dreadful fist of it. I didn't go to Bristol but heard it was abject at best. Five games into the season perhaps, but this isn't something that exiosts on its own, we have the whole of last season to loook at too.
3. Transfer work was unbelieveable. As a manager, you live or die by your players, surely? What did we have? CKR? Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth, then smashing it's teeth in and driving it to the glue factory. Turienzo? I can't remember what he looked like, let alone played like. Molango? His relevance in the stripes seems to have lasted as long as I usually do in bed. Kind of us to sign a player to give to other clubs each season though. Who pays his rent on his house down here when he's patrolling the north? I sure wouldn't want to if I was him. McCammon? Never really worked from the start but we signed him anyway only to get rid of him when we found out what we already knew. McGhee did make some ok signings but when the bad outweighs the good then people naturally start asking questions.
I also have a suspicion that DKs hand may have been slightly forced by the upcoming march. If McGhee had gone, would he have been in an awkward position. If he hadn't gone, well, that would have been unacceptable.
Sometimes in life, you just need to cut your losses and sadly that's where we got to with McGhee. No hard feelings, he didn't screw us like others have in the past, just came to the end of the line - about six months ago.
As for 'community clubs' fair enough, why not, just a shame a community eight miles down the road doesn't see us like that! Maybe we should b giving all the schools in Lewes free tickets. Hearts and minds, people.
London Irish
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Dies Irae said:
Yes I am.
London Irish
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Getting your season ticket then?Trigger said:
The Large One
Who's Next?
Yeah, I'll go with that.Albion Rob said:
Oh, and the Albion has one of its Study Support Centre in Lewes, based at the Dripping Pan. Guess what? Lewes District Council refused to acknowledge it when it opened.
London Irish
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No we didn't - we came out in the second half and, with 10 men, our pressure saw us hit the post to nearly make it 2-2. The ball was then directly hoofed into midfield where a Crewe player handled it, he hoofed it upfield and with half the Albion team appealing the ball then ricocheted off their striker and dribbled into the net for 3-1. Game over. To pretend that was us getting slaughtered is mischeivous and inaccurate.Albion Rob said:
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Lord Bracknell
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No it doesn't.Dies Irae said:
52 per cent of Iran's oil exports go to Europe. 48 per cent goes to Japan and South Korea. None goes to the USA (or the UK, for that matter).
London Irish
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Trigger said:
Yeah it is, good for you, genuinely.
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
wise words from Albion Rob.
McGhee just came to the end of the road. It does not make him a bad manager or a bad person. It happens.
McGhee just came to the end of the road. It does not make him a bad manager or a bad person. It happens.
Ex Shelton Seagull
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Interesting quote I just found in an on-line copy of the Southwark news. Was made during an interview in 2004 just before we played Millwall.
He said: "I'd become very frustrated of our inability to find the target man who was going to be a huge part of any hope we had in going further, and I was finding it more and more difficult to be in agreement with the chairman."
MM agreed to leave Millwall after he grew increasingly disillusioned by their failures in the transfer market and Theo Paphitis' increasing criticisms about team selections. The supporters were growing frustrated over below-par performances and players playing out of position. Maybe DK remembered this and took pre-emptive action before the team, and crowds, began to suffer?
There's a conversation between Paphitis and McGhee that is quoted nearly every time McGhee is mentioned on a Millwall messageboard. It took place before his final game against Preston at home after Paphitis had read the team sheet. It ran something like:
Paphitis "What's going with this team then?"
McGhee "Trust me, I know what i'm doing."
Paphitis "You better."
Millwall lost 2-0 and McGhee left straight after. It doesn't take much of a stretch of imagination to envisage a similar conversation taking place after the Crewe game does it?
He said: "I'd become very frustrated of our inability to find the target man who was going to be a huge part of any hope we had in going further, and I was finding it more and more difficult to be in agreement with the chairman."
MM agreed to leave Millwall after he grew increasingly disillusioned by their failures in the transfer market and Theo Paphitis' increasing criticisms about team selections. The supporters were growing frustrated over below-par performances and players playing out of position. Maybe DK remembered this and took pre-emptive action before the team, and crowds, began to suffer?
There's a conversation between Paphitis and McGhee that is quoted nearly every time McGhee is mentioned on a Millwall messageboard. It took place before his final game against Preston at home after Paphitis had read the team sheet. It ran something like:
Paphitis "What's going with this team then?"
McGhee "Trust me, I know what i'm doing."
Paphitis "You better."
Millwall lost 2-0 and McGhee left straight after. It doesn't take much of a stretch of imagination to envisage a similar conversation taking place after the Crewe game does it?
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
Lord Bracknell said:
It is when it goes to China that the rest of us need to start to worry.
Dave the OAP
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Lord Bracknell said:
Again I stand corrected. Its good to know you are always here to pick me up on these things Ed
I will try and find another example of someone being hated, but who we trade with.....
Cuban Sugar? erm........no cant think of anyone....world trade is safe and DK is obviously right
Albion Rob
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London Irish said:
Game over at 3-1 down where we, and I quote: "came out in the second half with 10 men and our pressure saw us hit the post"
Well, we might as well pack the whole season in there then hadn't we?
"It's ok lads, we're a bit behind and you're playing well but let's knock it on the head now, it's game over.@
The gripe wasn't with an individual goal, it was with the performance in general. If we had pulled it back to 2-2 (the goal had gone in and they wouldn't have scored) do you really think we would have held on for 2-2? Or would we have lost?
And if it was 'game over' then the implication here was that we didn't try for the last half hour or so - and if that's the case then the manager is at fault. We should at least be playing with pride, tickets cost enough these days FFS.
Look, I liked McGhee when he was doing well, was unsure of him when things cut up rough towards the end of 2004/05 and then decided about Christmas last year that I didn't like him and would be glad if he went. Where's the problem in that?
If you live by the sword then you die by the sword, and I'd imagine McGhee knows that as well as anyone. If he had by some miracle taken us to within a whisker of the Premiership then he'd have been off, and who could blame him. As it was, he took us down and presided over a time when support was as divided about the manager as I can remember since Barry Lloyd.
It's got to be said, you've taken contrary stances on both McCammon and McGhee and to be honest I admire you for backing the underdog and feel the debate is important but ultimately, both of them have let you down badly in terms of playing and managing in a manner that fails to support your arguments on here.
London Irish
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Seagull73 said:
Sorry, what has this got to do with the point I made about home crowds exiting early at every football ground in the country once a third or fourth goes in?
London Irish said:
You were suggesting that DK was taking action because of a minority of fans. People leaving in droves, when there was a small enough crowd in the first place was the point DK was making.
You've also said that he was wrong to sack MM because of a minority of fans, but that wasn't all he said.