Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊

"Community Club"



Les Biehn

GAME OVER
Aug 14, 2005
20,610
Lets be honest Zamora was a bit of a fluke but well done to Adams, Coppell kind of discovered Sidwell (but he also discovered that guy from the beach boys aswell) will MM done more for bringing youth through than them 2 but did seem to hav problems when spotting a decent player and attracting them to the club.
 




The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
Les Biehn said:
Lets be honest Zamora was a bit of a fluke but well done to Adams, Coppell kind of discovered Sidwell (but he also discovered that guy from the beach boys aswell) will MM done more for bringing youth through than them 2 but did seem to hav problems when spotting a decent player and attracting them to the club.
Did he 'discover' Sidwell, or did Liam Brady hand him to us on a plate?
 




Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
57,300
Back in Sussex
I've said it on here a thousand times, or so it seems...

Adams was very, very lucky with Zamora as he tried very hard to buy Lorenzo Pinamonte first. Ron Noades at Brentford was determined they were going to get the Paolo Maldini lookalike so offered more to clinch the deal. With the money burning a hole in his pocket, Adams turned to the Bristol Rovers reserve and the rest is history...
 


Les Biehn

GAME OVER
Aug 14, 2005
20,610
The Large One said:
Did he 'discover' Sidwell, or did Liam Brady hand him to us on a plate?

We could pick the shit out of all these details but the point I was trying to make is that all managers have their weak and strong points in the market. Comparing them is difficult as there are different context that they are operating in. I.e the clubs finances at the time, how the club is percieved, their contacts from their playing days, the players available to them etc.....
 




Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
57,300
Back in Sussex
Les Biehn said:
We could pick the shit out of all these details but the point I was trying to make is that all managers have their weak and strong points in the market. Comparing them is difficult as there are different context that they are operating in. I.e the clubs finances at the time, how the club is percieved, their contacts from their playing days, the players available to them etc.....

I think one thing all our recent managers have in common is very, very limited resources which means they HAVE to take gambles. Some are going to win and some are going to lose.

We don't have the luxury of going out and spending £20m on a world class international player. But I bet most people have noticed that by now...
 


Les Biehn

GAME OVER
Aug 14, 2005
20,610
Bozza said:
I think one thing all our recent managers have in common is very, very limited resources which means they HAVE to take gambles. Some are going to win and some are going to lose.

We don't have the luxury of going out and spending £20m on a world class international player. But I bet most people have noticed that by now...

Exactly, a lot of it can be down to luck. All managers since Adams ahev also had the problem that every forward they bring in is immediately compared to Zamora which doesn't help.
 


Bozza said:
It's somewhat naive to quote the cost of a player in terms of transfer fee alone. Moreso than ever before, the true cost of a player today is likely to be wages, rather than a headline transfer fee. And that is especially true with regard to where the Albion have to operate in the transfer market.

That's a fair point - but we know also from the Coke deal that CKR was probably on something around 1k a week or less. And he was our most talented player of that bunch mentioned. Laughable wages for a team expecting a Championship-level saviour.
 




Uncle Buck said:
Coppell worked with similar constraints and yes his team got relegated
and McGhee kept us up, you really have to mention facts like that you know.
 




El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
40,009
Pattknull med Haksprut
The money to Bury was £100k max, that leaves £150k to CKR to be paid over a two year period, so works out at £1500 a week.
 




PILTDOWN MAN

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 15, 2004
19,615
Hurst Green
SHOCK:ohmy: CKR on something costing 1k a week invovling a coke deal. no wonder he was fecking useless with that kind of habit.
 




El Presidente said:
The money to Bury was £100k max, that leaves £150k to CKR to be paid over a two year period, so works out at £1500 a week.
His contract was three years. Insider confirmed that not all the £250k had been spent on the entire CKR deal. So once Bury were paid, that leaves a figure of less than £150k for wages, ie. less than £1k a week.
 




Albion Rob said:
Did we not add to that from our own coffers?

No, because not all the £250k was used for the entire CKR deal.
 




El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
40,009
Pattknull med Haksprut
Albion Rob said:
Interesting.

What happened to the residual money? Went on Turienzo and the like or was just claimed back by Coca Cola?

I seem to recall looking at the terms of the Coca Cola and it did say that all of the money had to be spent on the one deal.

Therefore if he has been sold Coca Cola are £100,000 up in wages unspent

The major prize of the £250,000 and the two £50,000 prize funds are dedicated to funding the acquisition of a newly registered player(s) with the winning Club for the 2006/07 season. The prize fund must be spent by 31st August 2006 and can only be spent on domestic transfers. The prize fund may be used to pay the following fees and expenses a) transfer fees (domestic clubs) b) player’s wages c) VAT on transfer fees d) transfer fee levy e) ground improvement levy. The money cannot be used for any other purpose. The prize fund will be held in The Football League’s transfer fee account. The prize fund may not be used to pay agent’s fees or severance payments. Any player transferred should remain registered for at least one season with the winning Club. All Football League applicable rules and regulations, including the salary cost management protocol and the insolvency policy, must be adhered to. The Promoter shall endeavour to enable the winner to meet with the club but the final decision will be made by the winning football club.
 






Tooting Gull

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
11,033
The way I read and understand that (and assuming it was the same for 2005/6), we've probably had to give Coca-Cola back mayber £125-150k of the £250k (or at least, weren't able to draw it down as 'wages' at a later date).

Anyone care to confirm/rubbish? I hope I'm wrong. But if so, we've blown free cash by getting the wrong, stroppy player. Which is, given our situation, astonishing even by this club's standards.
 


Albion Rob said:
Interesting.

What happened to the residual money? Went on Turienzo and the like or was just claimed back by Coca Cola?

The residual money wasn't much I think, seen a couple of references to that.
 


Albion and Premier League latest from Sky Sports


Top
Link Here