Caroline Lucas (bleedin heart lefty)

[The Large One]

Oi, dimwit! Read whole thread if you can.

What I question is her motives for her criticism.

What did she actually say? I mean - the quotes.

If it's on Twitter or Facebook, I can't get them.

The criticisms aren't on her website.

 

[wellquickwoody]

Anyway, back to the Green Party leader.

Will she call for the Smash EDO 'demo' to be called off?

After all, it will be her constituents whose businesses and bank holidays will be affected by it

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

need to put this into perspective, ok for gays too parade around BRIGHTON promoting , not ok for people too parade through BRIGHTON promoting st georges day because you'll be classed as a fascist ....... incredible and disturbing really, this country's going down the Swanee .

 

[dingodan]

(and those protestors were not risking their lives!!!).

So, you are saying that the police were risking their lives, but the protesters were not.

The police with their helmets, horses and weapons, were at risk ... from the unarmed, unmounted, helmet-less protesters, but... the protesters were not at any risk from the police...?

...Really?

 

[Meade's Ball]

Miniature clips of activity won't paint the whole picture of a scenario, but i'm glad for technological advancement and youtube to allow people to put information out there for all of us to decide what is physically and aggressively acceptable. For me, whacking people with a baton for standing still doesn't seem justifiable and the police are right to be questioned over their actions, whether it is as a body or just to individuals who can't keep themselves calm enough to carry out their duty as expected.
A hypocrite, i know, but i do rather like to see the racists getting a kicking for all the hate they look to bring to the streets. Of course people should still be charged for violent acts, but those right-wing scummers do thoroughly deserve a beating for their beastly and retarded views of the "other".

 

[Westdene Seagull]

So, you are saying that the police were risking their lives, but the protesters were not.

The police with their helmets, horses and weapons, were at risk ... from the unarmed, unmounted, helmet-less protesters, but... the protesters were not at any risk from the police...?

...Really?

I can't see anyone that is suggesting any police officers risked their lives at this protest but police officers DO risk their lives within the scope of their job. That said, how come it was only police officers that ended up in hospital ? Did they beat each other up ? Or more likely were they attacked by a criminal element of the protestors ( left or right ) ?

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

So, you are saying that the police were risking their lives, but the protesters were not.

The police with their helmets, horses and weapons, were at risk ... from the unarmed, unmounted, helmet-less protesters, but... the protesters were not at any risk from the police...?

...Really?

If they behave themselves - then they arent at risk. Only those at risk are the ones who have a go at the police, try egging them on do something - and if people like that get hurt, im afraid i have no sympathy. I do however have sympathy for those who werent causing trouble on Sunday that were caught in the firing line and can see why they would be annoyed.

 

[TheMajor]

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beating up students and protestors and attending football matches in masses is hardly putting the life on the line is it?

24k pension for beating up students and attending football matches ! where do I sign ?

 

[Robdinho]

If they behave themselves - then they arent at risk. Only those at risk are the ones who have a go at the police.

This has been demonstrably not the case in a great number of instances (the video of the chap walking home posted earlier in the thread being one).

 

[The Fifth Column]

I'm wondering where the clips of the masked counter protesters forcing their way through the police lines and building barricades and throwing hundreds of bottles at the police are? Its all well and good getting all anti-police over one single youtube clip but the fact is the majority of these counter protesters are the same ones who latch onto every demo in Brighton and came out looking for a ruck with the Old Bill which they got. And now they are all bleating about it! I'm no supporter of the March for England and wish they would never darken our city again but the opposing side are no better in my opinion and I would equally like to see them all piss off as well. If you come to my city with your faces masked and looking for confrontation and our local police give you a shoeing then tough shit. Same goes for all the other poxy tree-hugging twats on this thread.

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

This has been demonstrably not the case in a great number of instances (the video of the chap walking home posted earlier in the thread being one).

That was over the top and thats why the Police Officer got into trouble for it.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

do you have any idea what the violent extreme left wing thugs are so annoyed about?

According to them, fascist right wing thugs such as EDL but it would appear you think / know differently.

 

[looney]

There has been warnings for years about mass social unrest over mass immigration, even from Government commitees. What I find funny are those that advocated mass immigration are now crying about the consequences of it, which they either chose to ignore or are just to plain stupid to understand.

 

[Albumen]

Anyway, back to the Green Party leader.

Will she call for the Smash EDO 'demo' to be called off?

After all, it will be her constituents whose businesses and bank holidays will be affected by it

Right, so the thread has kinda proved her right (and I passed her walking away from the demo not pleased) so now you're gonna have a go at her for something else before she's even done it? I see you're a Hovian, Tory?

 

[wellquickwoody]

Right, so the thread has kinda proved her right (and I passed her walking away from the demo not pleased) so now you're gonna have a go at her for something else before she's even done it? I see you're a Hovian, Tory?

Maybe the vote should not be a universal right

 

[The Large One]

Anyway, back to the Green Party leader.

Will she call for the Smash EDO 'demo' to be called off?

After all, it will be her constituents whose businesses and bank holidays will be affected by it

Did she call for the EDL march to be called off?

After all, it was her constituents whose businesses and Sunday that were affected by it.

No, is the answer. She merely protested against it. A conviction politician that you don't like because... she's a conviction politician.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

A conviction politician that you don't like because... she's a conviction politician.

Although a conviction politician can often be seen as an opportunistic politician. She showed a poor lack of judgement to get involved in a violent demonstration - she should have condemned both sides but given the Green Party support Smash EDO her comments are not unexpected.

 

[dingodan]

For clarity, I don't agree with either side, they both have things very misunderstood in my opinion, both sides are largely ignorant.

But even the ignorant and belligerent are entitled to be treated in accordance with the rule of law.

 

[The Large One]

Although a conviction politician can often be seen as an opportunistic politician. She showed a poor lack of judgement to get involved in a violent demonstration - she should have condemned both sides but given the Green Party support Smash EDO her comments are not unexpected.

'Can often be seen...'. Maybe, although that point is moot here. However, seeing as you lack objectivity regarding Green Party politics (look at your signature), your comments about Caroline Lucas can't be taken as anything other than pre-judged.

She didn't join a violent demonstration. She joined a protest which turned violent. She hates far-right wing politics and will join a protest to say so. In fact, there are many things she agrees or disagrees with that she will protest or celebrate (Amex bike train...?) And she was doing this before she became an MP. Tell us about your favourite armchair politicians, and the things they believe in...

Whether you agree or disagree with her is another point.

Bearing in mind your opposition to the UK's presence in Iraq and Afghanistan, you might have to enlighten us about your love for EDO though, Ian.

 

[Robdinho]

That was over the top and thats why the Police Officer got into trouble for it.

Yes it was. Plenty more examples where that came from too.

This for example: Black firefighter 'tasered as he tried to help police'

My point is that your comment that law abiding people have nothing to fear from the police is not always true.