Buy a place at university for just 28K.
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I havn't actually looked, but I'm not sure they do sandwich medicine courses?
I'm taking a gap year to have a nice long holiday, get some decent work experience done, relax, earn some cash and to stop my self burning out on education, all of which added together is easily worth £25 extra per month 5 years down the line. Nothing to do with predictions, I was predicted 3 As and I expect to get that. (at least)
Congratulations. If you are doing medicine it doesn't matter what the fees are, you will more than recoup them, and with the bonus of having X-Ray eyes you will make a MINT.
Don't know how the f*** I'm gonna pay my fees
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It's rather simple - you wait until you graduate and then get a job paying a minimum of £21k. And even then it's only the cost of a couple of pints of cheap lager a week.
I'm currently doing this, and would recommend it to anyone. For all the reasons you've listed above, plus I get a tidy 19 grand for my years work
Great experience too, it's amazing how different working in industry is to how you expect it to be when you're studying at uni.
Kazenga <3
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You'd think so wouldn't you?
Yep, lots of jobs on offer right now...
The problem is, even though you don't have to pay it back straight away, 50k is a hell of a lot of money. Some kids from poorer backgrounds have probably never seen a four figure bank balance, so that much debt is terrifying. Even if they may be wrong to be put off, I still think it will put off a large amount of otherwise extremely capable students.
Also, apart from Oxbridge and a handful of other Russell Group Universities, 9k a year just isn't good value for money. There are some really good universities all over Europe, many far better than some of ours. If they are offering a course that is as good, if not better, than an English university at a fraction of the cost, why would you stay in England? I certainly wouldn't be if I was going to Uni next year.
So that means that many very talented students could be going abroad to study. This leads to a very good chance that they will stay there to work, so England has basically lost out on all the tax money used to put that person through the school education system, with no economic returns from that person's talents.
If this starts to happen a lot, people go to foreign universities more, our universities lose out, and eventually decrease in stature and quality. And a worse university system leads to lesser educated citizens, and eventually less economic benefits for the country.
Also, apart from Oxbridge and a handful of other Russell Group Universities, 9k a year just isn't good value for money. There are some really good universities all over Europe, many far better than some of ours. If they are offering a course that is as good, if not better, than an English university at a fraction of the cost, why would you stay in England? I certainly wouldn't be if I was going to Uni next year.
So that means that many very talented students could be going abroad to study. This leads to a very good chance that they will stay there to work, so England has basically lost out on all the tax money used to put that person through the school education system, with no economic returns from that person's talents.
If this starts to happen a lot, people go to foreign universities more, our universities lose out, and eventually decrease in stature and quality. And a worse university system leads to lesser educated citizens, and eventually less economic benefits for the country.
You know absolutely nothing of the jobs market though, there are PLENTY of jobs out there if you want one.
I'm not sure you're up to being a student ! I'm not talking about now but after you've graduated. If you don't get a job then you won't pay any money back until you do AND you're earning £21k
Kazenga <3
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f*** it I'll watch the first game at the Amex and then I'll kill myself.
Superphil
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If that is the case, the get on out there Students, and learn overseas. I am curious though, with so many tens of thousands of overseas students coming to study here, where is the best education, and where is the cheapest? As I showed earlier, in the USA it is more expensive than here, and if you want a good USA university, it is triple the cost of even the dearest here. At least here you get a loan provided, rather than you or your folks having to stump up in full as you go along. Here you can learn, qualify, get work experience, and then, and only then, when you start earning good money, and you can afford it, then you start to repay it.
beorhthelm
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yes, but thats a big "if". are the cheaper european universities the equivilent of Oxford, Imperial and Warwick, or are they Southbank, Liverpool John Moore and Leeds Metropolitan grade? i would imagine, just like foriegn students coming here, you pay for the quality.
a little research on the subject, show the Times Education Suppliment places 5 uk institutions in the top 10 in Europe. on a world basis, while the US dominates in a similar fashion over us, the top rated European is 15th and not another until 39rd.
im against the fees in principle, but frankly if someone thinks 9k a year for a degree from Bristol, Sheffield or Sussex (16th in Europe!) seems too much, then they probably shouldnt be doing a degree at all. if you dont want to pay for a lower league university, then dont, get a trade instead.
RexCathedra
Aurea Mediocritas
Pretty much what a year at an American private college or university out-of-state tuition at one of the flagship state universities like UVA or Ann Arbor would cost. Less than an Ivy (Brown, Harvard) or top-tier liberal arts college (Wellesley, Bowdoin, Oberlin) though.
bhaexpress
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I always thought you were not too bright, of course you know this from personal experience given that you've actually been out there in the working environment.
bhaexpress
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Slightly different approach to education in the US though isn't it ? More of an industry than higher learning. Mind you the gap between people with a college degree and those who haven't tends to be a lot greater than here. Mind you doesn't it take four years instead of three to get a degree there ?
As I say, at the moment English universities are amongst the best, as the best students in our country, and others, go to them. But if students see better value for money abroad then that could soon change.
I wouldn't say an institute being in the top 20 universities in Europe is a lower league university if I'm honest, the three of those mentioned are still considered fairly prestigious universities. But the fact is, if you can pay 9k a year at Bristol/Sussex, or just over 1,000 Euros per year at the University of Munich, based on league table performance then surely Munich would be an extremely attractive option? Coupled with the fact that Germany is one of the top countries in the world at the moment for industry and research, i imagine a lot of students may end up there.
Having made a guest lecture at Stanford and San Jose in California, and also Uni of Chicago, I would thoroughly recommend considering the States if (a) You can afford it (or have won a scholarship) and (b) you have the qualifications.
The facilities are jaw dropping, and the staff to student ratios are superb.
The facilities are jaw dropping, and the staff to student ratios are superb.
Austrian Gull
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There are currently no student fees in Austria.
The previous fee of €380 per semester was scrapped a couple of years ago.
Also, no limit on admissions. Basically, the equivalent to A-levels will get you on to almost any course here.
Is that the same for overseas students?