[Politics] Brexit

[nicko31]

Biden administration threatens tariffs on UK goods in 'tech tax' row

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-56565636

WTF, hasn't someone told him in Brexit Britain we hold all the cards?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Tomorrow at midnight any UK citizens in Europe overstaying will be introduced to Brexit reality, not the fantasy Johnson promised in 2016...

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Nothing to see here ,move on
Regards
DF

 

[nicko31]

To be fair, you did make it clear you weren't bothered what happened to NI all along (in fact I think you said you wanted a United Ireland and Johnson's Irish Sea Border has certainly moved things that way, more significantly than anything the republicans achieved in the last 100 years). It wasn't as if you were an ardent Unionist who was then stupid enough to vote for a border in the Irish Sea

Imagine that. Being a Unionist who has done more for the Republican cause than anyone has managed in 100 years, voting for a completely unimplementable Irish Sea Border solution and then, years later, still desperately hoping for a magical technical solution to dig you out of the shitshow you've created. I'm sure nobody would have been that foolish

Some are little Englanders and proud of it, others are still learning...

 

[Baldseagull]

We were in good company ...

The European Union's chief Brexit negotiator, Michel Barnier, said he is willing to consider new ways to solve the Irish Border issue.

The 67-year-old Frenchman also said he was very concerned about the Irish Border issue but that the EU was open to discussing different - possibly dispersed and new technological - ways of checking goods crossing the Border.

"We are ready to simplify these checks, to have them carried out at a number of different places and have checks, thanks to technical means, which could take different forms," he said in a transcript released by the British parliament.

"They could be dispersed. They could take place in different places, on board vessels, in ports outside Ireland, they could be done using technological means, they could be dispersed, as I said, or simplified in technological terms."

https://www.independent.ie/business...the-border-impasse-says-barnier-37294953.html

So, suggesting this was some outlandish option unworthy of consideration is of course untrue.

There is a bit of a clue of what Barnier was thinking, with mention of "on board vessels" and "in ports outside Ireland".
During negotiations, however impossible the suggestions from the other side are, it is polite to say in public that you are willing to discuss.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

To be fair, you did make it clear you weren't bothered what happened to NI all along (in fact I think you said you wanted a United Ireland and Johnson's Irish Sea Border has certainly moved things that way, more significantly than anything the republicans achieved in the last 100 years). It wasn't as if you were an ardent Unionist who was then stupid enough to vote for a border in the Irish Sea

Imagine that. Being a Unionist who has done more for the Republican cause than anyone has managed in 100 years, voting for a completely unimplementable Irish Sea Border solution and then, years later, still desperately hoping for a magical technical solution to dig you out of the shitshow you've created. I'm sure nobody would have been that foolish

A totally unworkable border in the Irish Sea constructed in the name of removing red tape, frictionless trade and a United Kingdom. It would be very, very difficult to make this up. But BJ pulls it off.

 

[nicko31]

A totally unworkable border in the Irish Sea constructed in the name of removing red tape, frictionless trade and a United Kingdom. It would be very, very difficult to make this up. But BJ pulls it off.

The brutal reality is a lot of English people don't care about Ireland and they don't care about NI either even though its part of the UK. Johnson knows this, and feel it gives him licence to be cavalier and tell lies on top of lies

But with an US / Irish guy in the Whitehouse and Scotland feeling like they've been hung out to dry we're not in a good place

 

[WATFORD zero]

15 months after we left the EU and 3 months after we actually stopped getting the benefits of being in the EU, where we are with Brexit ? Here's what I believe are the top 5 priority issues

1. The NI Protocol.
The NI Protocol, designed by the UK Government, negotiated and agreed with the EU, but the Government is not capable of implementing. So the Government have now broken International law, by ignoring the NIP and unilaterally stopping the agreed processes and procedures. This is not sustainable in it's current state.

2. The Fishing Industry
The actual deal on fishing rights was always secondary, with the regulations governing the exporting of fish to the EU for third parties already there (which UK helped define when members some years ago). In addition to these, we now have the new Export rules (see below). If these rules do not change the UK fishing industry will be obliterated within the year.

3.Exports
The deal negotiated and implemented has so many more regulations, taxes, ROI issues, that unless it's changed, this is going to have further significant impact across all areas of the economy. These ARE NOT 'teething issues'. If we continue to run as we are, the immediate risk to any industry, business and job that entails exports to the EU is huge.

4. Imports
We are currently running 'light touch' border controls and have pushed back the agreed implementation of the proper controls, because we have no infrastructure, systems, processes or staff in place to introduce them. In addition we are concerned what it would do to the cost and availability of goods in the UK if they are introduced, particularly in areas such as foodstuffs and fresh produce. In the meantime, we are not charging import taxes on goods coming in, undercutting British based competitors and we are open to VAT fraud and smuggling. In addition, because we have now stepped outside of the timescales agreed in the Brexit Trade deal, there will be pressure to make sure we offer this 'light touch' to every other country in the WTO

5. Financial Services
We are currently running with 'no deal' for financial services, with business haemorrhaging into the EU, US and elsewhere. We either need to negotiate Equivalence with the EU or undertake massive de-regulation to compete with places like Singapore. Without equivalence and passporting (which is looking increasingly unlikely with each week that passes), it will simply continue to pour out and without massive de-regulation, we won't be able to replace it with business from other markets.

Now, obviously, some of these are more pressing than others, but this time we will need to do something other than sticking our fingers in our ears and shouting 'project fear' to kick them into the long grass.

The only suggestion for a solution anyone on NSC has managed to come up with, has been joining EEA from [MENTION=25402]Blue Valkyrie[/MENTION] (although other single market options are available )

It's just as well we have used the Government's diplomatic skills these last 15 months since we left, improving relations with China and USA ready to start many long hard years of negotiations as a junior partner ........ oh

 

[Baker lite]

Britain is booming.
https://twitter.com/thomasevans1984/status/1377208496207331336?s=21
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[nicko31]

Britain is booming.
https://twitter.com/thomasevans1984/status/1377208496207331336?s=21
Born to win [emoji636]

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Its inevitable as the country becomes poorer drinkers will trade down, Martin may be a little Englander but he is also no fool.

 

[Randy McNob]

Britain is booming.
https://twitter.com/thomasevans1984/status/1377208496207331336?s=21
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can you link this to Brexit?

 

[Baker lite]

can you link this to Brexit?

Martin was a prominent Brexiteer, part of the 17.4 million that are quite literally saving lives
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[Baker lite]

Britain is booming
https://twitter.com/rodbishop15/status/1377241535515856912?s=21
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[WATFORD zero]

can you link this to Brexit?

He just posts links that don't have anything to do with Brexit whatsoever. I actually clicked on some a few days ago and pointed out that none were related to Brexit. He couldn't answer

It's just continuous trolling in a pathetic attempt to derail the thread. Best ignored

Anyway, back on the actual topic of the thread, welcome to the New World Order where the UK is most definitely the junior partner

Biden's tariffs threat shows how far Brexit Britain is from controlling its own destiny

What do lipstick, cravats, gold chains and poker chips have in common? The answer is that they are among a host of items that the US is threatening to impose punitive import tariffs on if the UK proceeds with its plan to implement a tax on big tech. The new duties are intended to raise $325m – the amount the US government believes the exchequer will raise from the 2% tax on revenues of tech firms.

But it matters because it reveals Britain’s newfound weakness in international trade from outside the EU – and how that weakness may limit the ability of the government to curb the power of big tech.

Brexit was sold on a myth that buccaneering Britain would be able to use its freedom from EU structures to strike great new trade deals the world over. The problem was twofold: not only was it a daft idea that Britain would expand its exports by trashing its economic relationship with its most important trading partner, it was also simply untrue that agility would somehow trump scale in trade negotiations.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/30/biden-tariffs-brexit-britain-eu-big-tech

Who could have guessed

 

[nicko31]

He just posts links that don't have anything to do with Brexit whatsoever. I actually clicked on some a few days ago and pointed out that none were related to Brexit. He couldn't answer

It's just continuous trolling in a pathetic attempt to derail the thread. Best ignored

Anyway, back on the actual topic of the thread, welcome to the New World Order where the UK is most definitely the junior partner

Biden's tariffs threat shows how far Brexit Britain is from controlling its own destiny

What do lipstick, cravats, gold chains and poker chips have in common? The answer is that they are among a host of items that the US is threatening to impose punitive import tariffs on if the UK proceeds with its plan to implement a tax on big tech. The new duties are intended to raise $325m – the amount the US government believes the exchequer will raise from the 2% tax on revenues of tech firms.

But it matters because it reveals Britain’s newfound weakness in international trade from outside the EU – and how that weakness may limit the ability of the government to curb the power of big tech.

Brexit was sold on a myth that buccaneering Britain would be able to use its freedom from EU structures to strike great new trade deals the world over. The problem was twofold: not only was it a daft idea that Britain would expand its exports by trashing its economic relationship with its most important trading partner, it was also simply untrue that agility would somehow trump scale in trade negotiations.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/30/biden-tariffs-brexit-britain-eu-big-tech

Who could have guessed

Welcome to the brave new world, when you are the junior partner you get duffed up, a shape of things to come. The US always looks after the US, Trump or Biden we'll get screwed in a trade deal of there is one

 

[Randy McNob]

Martin was a prominent Brexiteer, part of the 17.4 million that are quite literally saving lives
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Ah yes Martin, liked to portay himself as a man of the people and talked up Brexit but when his man of the people credentials were tested during the pandemic he refused to pay his staff and told them to find a job in Tesco.

 

[larus]

Wow, that's a work of art.

Aside of NSC A-Z of Brexit clowns that have mostly gone into hiding its a good job someone had their finger on the pulse!!

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Talking of CLOWNS.

Do you still think MACRON is a superb leader?
Do you still think Ursula Fond Of Lying is the type of politician we can only dream of?
Do you accept that the EU have proven to be TOTALLY incompetent with their vaccines program?

Also, do you still think we are in the EURO, or have you finally worked out we never were?

Come on Coco, own your failures.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Talking of CLOWNS.

Do you still think MACRON is a superb leader?
Do you still think Ursula Fond Of Lying is the type of politician we can only dream of?
Do you accept that the EU have proven to be TOTALLY incompetent with their vaccines program?

Also, do you still think we are in the EURO, or have you finally worked out we never were?

Come on Coco, own your failures.

A fine resume of mirth but there's only one King of the Clowns on this thread and that's someone who predicted we wouldn't leave the EU, predicted we would only get BRINO, predicted No deal couldn't happen, then predicted no deal would happen and clearly stated he wanted it to happen then lied about it, and now spends all his time complaining about a less damaging Brexit deal not to mention the stalking tendencies and ongoing paranoia .... clowntastic

 

[Randy McNob]

Seems like many businesses took the governments advice and set up in the EU

UK Money and jobs lost to the EU

[tweet]1377335716959547396[/tweet]

 

[nicko31]

Seems like many businesses took the governments advice and set up in the EU

UK Money and jobs lost to the EU

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Johnson said f**k business, one of the few promises he has honoured.

Some angry Brexiters on here tonight, have I missed something?

 

[WATFORD zero]

Seems like many businesses took the governments advice and set up in the EU

UK Money and jobs lost to the EU

[tweet]1377335716959547396[/tweet]

Shirley, nobody could have seen this coming

Here's my post from a thread on here about investments 3 months ago

Tattoo Removal Parlours and Dutch Warehousing. Trust me

Hope everybody with that great British entrepreneurial spirit got on board and took advantage of this Brexit benefit