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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Randy McNob

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Jun 13, 2020
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Nope I won’t, it’s been brought to my attention that I’m a troll on this thread and I don’t want to get into trouble again!

Have a great day[emoji106]

Why do you care about getting in trouble? I can't think what it is you feel you would be missing out on if you weren't allowed to post on this forum
 






Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
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Jul 17, 2003
19,805
Valley of Hangleton
Why do you care about getting in trouble? I can't think what it is you feel you would be missing out on if you weren't allowed to post on this forum

I will not be drawn into pointless arguments, you have a great day[emoji106]

Besides I’ve been on this site a lot longer than you and don’t want to be banned [emoji106]
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Why do you care about getting in trouble? I can't think what it is you feel you would be missing out on if you weren't allowed to post on this forum

Strange comment from someone who set up an account relatively recently just to post about politics on this particular football forum .... do you even support :bhasign: ?
 


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
27,767
Strange comment from someone who set up an account relatively recently just to post about politics on this particular football forum .... do you even support :bhasign: ?

Excellent. A Brexit supporter, and one I know likes to get this thread back on topic.

So maybe you could answer the question for your friend and tell us what you think is going to happen to address these issues over the next 12 months ?

A Northern Ireland protocol which is unsustainable and we are having to break International law rather than implement the rest of what we agreed in the Deal.
A Fishing Industry that is on it's knees and won't survive the year in any significant form without changes to the Deal.
An enormous hit on any company that Exports that will not change unless there are changes to the Deal.
We keep pushing back Import controls because we don't have the infrastructure, systems or staff to implement them and to avoid the impact of Import controls on supply lines and supermarket shelves. But we will have to implement some sort of controls eventually unless we get changes to the Deal.
The Financial Services market is haemorrhaging into the EU, US and elsewhere. We either need to negotiate Equivalence with the EU or undertake massive de-regulation to compete with places like Singapore, because without changes, it will simply continue to pour out.

Because the fact is that the deal has been negotiated, written, signed off and parts of it delivered, and we are all in this together.

So maybe just go for one of them and we can discuss your proposed solutions to that, and then work through them individually. It will be good to get some positive, 'can do' thinking on these ???

*edit* And a tip for [MENTION=534]Chicken Run[/MENTION]. If you have nothing to contribute on the topic of a particular thread, don't keep posting on it incessantly, and you can't even be accused of trolling, let alone get banned for it :thumbsup:
 
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Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
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Jul 17, 2003
19,805
Valley of Hangleton
Excellent. A Brexit supporter, and one I know likes to get this thread back on topic.

So maybe you could answer the question for your friend and tell us what you think is going to happen to address these issues over the next 12 months ?

A Northern Ireland protocol which is unsustainable and we are having to break International law rather than implement the rest of what we agreed in the Deal.
A Fishing Industry that is on it's knees and won't survive the year in any significant form without changes to the Deal.
An enormous hit on any company that Exports that will not change unless there are changes to the Deal.
We keep pushing back Import controls because we don't have the infrastructure, systems or staff to implement them and to avoid the impact of Import controls on supply lines and supermarket shelves. But we will have to implement some sort of controls eventually unless we get changes to the Deal.
The Financial Services market is haemorrhaging into the EU, US and elsewhere. We either need to negotiate Equivalence with the EU or undertake massive de-regulation to compete with places like Singapore, because without changes, it will simply continue to pour out.

Because the fact is that the deal has been negotiated, written, signed off and parts of it delivered, and we are all in this together.

So maybe just go for one of them and we can discuss your proposed solutions to that, and then work through them individually. It will be good to get some positive, 'can do' thinking on these ???

*edit* And a tip for [MENTION=534]Chicken Run[/MENTION]. If you have nothing to contribute on the topic of a particular thread, don't keep posting on it incessantly, and you can't even be accused of trolling, let alone get banned for it :thumbsup:

Here’s a heads up for you, I’ll only post on this thread going forward if people keep engaging/mentioning me, so stop trying to have the last word and have a great day[emoji106]
 






nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
18,574
Gods country fortnightly
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For anyone who has worked in sales, its a lot harder to find a new customer than keeping an old one

Unless your government imposes trade sanctions on you, then you're fooked
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
[tweet]1371367065022529541[/tweet]

Interesting piece by Polly Toynbee in The Guardian, she covers the issues very well and points out why people will be in denial about the calamity or uninformed by the calamity as they choose to read the media which won't cover the fall out from Brexit.


"Now we know that British exports to the European Union plummeted by a cataclysmic 41% after Brexit on 1 January, what next? This is not the “slow puncture” predicted, but a big bang. Yet so far, it registers little on the political Richter scale.

It should shake the government to the core, but voters are well protected from this unwelcome news by our largely pro-Brexit press. Nor does BBC news, under Brexiteer mortar fire, dare do enough to rebalance the misinformation. Saturday’s Financial Times splashed that killer trade figure on its front page, but the Daily Express splashed “Flying start for US trade deal”. There is no “flying start”. Meanwhile, an EU legal action against Boris Johnson is starting this week, for his reneging on the Northern Ireland protocol and thereby imperilling the Good Friday peace agreement."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/16/brexit-deal-bad-evidence-trade
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,574
Gods country fortnightly
Interesting piece by Polly Toynbee in The Guardian, she covers the issues very well and points out why people will be in denial about the calamity or uninformed by the calamity as they choose to read the media which won't cover the fall out from Brexit.


"Now we know that British exports to the European Union plummeted by a cataclysmic 41% after Brexit on 1 January, what next? This is not the “slow puncture” predicted, but a big bang. Yet so far, it registers little on the political Richter scale.

It should shake the government to the core, but voters are well protected from this unwelcome news by our largely pro-Brexit press. Nor does BBC news, under Brexiteer mortar fire, dare do enough to rebalance the misinformation. Saturday’s Financial Times splashed that killer trade figure on its front page, but the Daily Express splashed “Flying start for US trade deal”. There is no “flying start”. Meanwhile, an EU legal action against Boris Johnson is starting this week, for his reneging on the Northern Ireland protocol and thereby imperilling the Good Friday peace agreement."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/16/brexit-deal-bad-evidence-trade

They can lie all they like but ultimately the country is poorer and the standard of living for many is going to fall. Already we have 9 out 10 poorest areas in Northern Europe, worse pensions in the developed world, 15m people with <£100 in savings.

Brexit is pure self harm, nothing less. Its a long way back
 




Garry Nelson's teacher

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May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
They can lie all they like but ultimately the country is poorer and the standard of living for many is going to fall. Already we have 9 out 10 poorest areas in Northern Europe, worse pensions in the developed world, 15m people with <£100 in savings.

Brexit is pure self harm, nothing less. Its a long way back

I recall in one of the previous recessions (early 80s maybe) that one of the news programme had a weekly round-up of jobs lost. It made for very grim reading ((I was living up north at the time so it had particular relevance). A similar approach to Brexit-related job losses would make for interesting reading but would the broadcasters have the moral courage to do it?
 




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