[Politics] Brexit

[JC Footy Genius]

You seem bizarrely empowered by what I ask?

A no deal on Financial services, it generates £75B p.a in tax revenue. We won't lose all of it but even if we lost 15% its a huge financial hole

What's your plan B from here? Still relying on a Jam and biscuits Brexit?

A longing to battle and correct falsehoods, misrepresentations and lies .... unfortunately your lot keep me very busy.

A memorandum of understanding/deal still might be possible in the near future but much smarter people than you or I will be looking for new opportunities to exploit now we are outside the EU. Instead of continuously talking up wild guesstimates of lost tax revenue perhaps it's best if you have some patience and get back to me in 5 years time to see where the tax take is.

 

[Randy McNob]

A longing to battle and correct falsehoods, misrepresentations and lies .... unfortunately your lot keep me very busy.

A memorandum of understanding/deal still might be possible in the near future but much smarter people than you or I will be looking for new opportunities to exploit now we are outside the EU. Instead of continuously talking up wild guesstimates of lost tax revenue perhaps it's best if you have some patience and get back to me in 5 years time to see where the tax take is.

So we have to take a huge hit now so that in 5 years or so, maybe, some undefined or undecribable 'thing' will happen and there'll be a win or there'll be bigger tax revenues - fingers crossed?

There's one word to decribe that: PONZI

 

[JC Footy Genius]

EU drowning in Bureaucracy shock

In other news the EU's response to Brexit seems to be faltering ....

EU's future of Europe conference in disarray with six presidents vying for control

The European Union’s latest effort at engaging its citizens, touted as a riposte to Brexit and a grassroots experiment in direct democracy, has descended into bureaucratic farce.

There is precious little that Brussels’ federalists and eurosceptics agree on. But, in a rare sign of unity in the EU’s capital, they are joined in apathy about the Conference on the Future of Europe.

Emmanuel Macron, the French president, had called for EU-wide citizens debates on the bloc’s future in 2019. But the idea quickly became mired in inter-institutional squabbling, which has meant the overdue event ended up with no fewer than six presidents, rather than the single one originally planned.

“The idea only made sense if its job was straightforward and simple,” said Andrew Duff, a former Liberal Democrat MEP and former chair of the Spinelli group of federalists.

“What we have is a mess of pottage. There's no agreement within the institutions let alone between them about what the Conference is for - or its organisation, leadership, or budget.”

“I believe this would be only one another eurofederalist exercise. No other outcome than “more Europe” expected,” said Jan Zahradil, a Czech MEP and the former president of the European Conservatives and Reformists group in the European Parliament.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...erence-disarray-six-presidents-vying-control/

 

[daveinprague]

A longing to battle and correct falsehoods, misrepresentations and lies. unfortunately your lot keep me very busy.

A memorandum of understanding/deal still might be possible in the near future but much smarter people than you or I will be looking for new opportunities to exploit now we are outside the EU. Instead of continuously talking up wild guesstimates of lost tax revenue perhaps it's best if you have some patience and get back to me in 5 years time to see where the tax take is.

So now we must wait for 'smart' people to investigate globall opportunities. Some gamble with the nation's economy. Which Brexit lie (there's quite a choice) made you jump onto NSC to argue against?

 

[nicko31]

In other news the EU's response to Brexit seems to be faltering ....

EU's future of Europe conference in disarray with six presidents vying for control

The European Union’s latest effort at engaging its citizens, touted as a riposte to Brexit and a grassroots experiment in direct democracy, has descended into bureaucratic farce.

There is precious little that Brussels’ federalists and eurosceptics agree on. But, in a rare sign of unity in the EU’s capital, they are joined in apathy about the Conference on the Future of Europe.

Emmanuel Macron, the French president, had called for EU-wide citizens debates on the bloc’s future in 2019. But the idea quickly became mired in inter-institutional squabbling, which has meant the overdue event ended up with no fewer than six presidents, rather than the single one originally planned.

“The idea only made sense if its job was straightforward and simple,” said Andrew Duff, a former Liberal Democrat MEP and former chair of the Spinelli group of federalists.

“What we have is a mess of pottage. There's no agreement within the institutions let alone between them about what the Conference is for - or its organisation, leadership, or budget.”

“I believe this would be only one another eurofederalist exercise. No other outcome than “more Europe” expected,” said Jan Zahradil, a Czech MEP and the former president of the European Conservatives and Reformists group in the European Parliament.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...erence-disarray-six-presidents-vying-control/

Concentrate on our own own Union, that's the one in imminent breakup with an internal customs border and the Scots on the brink

 

[nicko31]

Express trolling their victims again..

Spanish exploitation of Brexit bureaucracy sparks British expats to flee back to UK

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1410151/Brexit-news-Spain-expats-Brussels-EU-latest

 

[Chicken Run]

Express trolling their victims again..

Spanish exploitation of Brexit bureaucracy sparks British expats to flee back to UK

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1410151/Brexit-news-Spain-expats-Brussels-EU-latest

The downside to this is the local economies affected by this Spain, but I’m guessing you don’t care about them?

It’s all about the headline right!

 

[nicko31]

The downside to this is the local economies affected by this Spain, but I’m guessing you don’t care about them?

It’s all about the headline right!

Should be good for Wetherspoons share price back here though...

 

[Randy McNob]

The downside to this is the local economies affected by this Spain, but I’m guessing you don’t care about them?

It’s all about the headline right!

Sooo, erm, Brexit good or Brexit bad...?

 

[Chicken Run]

Sooo, erm, Brexit good or Brexit bad...?

Good for the UK and bad for Spain.

Sooo, erm local Spanish economies being affected by this good or a bad thing?

 

[Randy McNob]

Good for the UK and bad for Spain.

Sooo, erm local Spanish economies being affected by this good or a bad thing?

So erm, not having the option to retire in warmer countries is good for the UK? So....bad for UK, bad for Spain, bad all round

 

[daveinprague]

Good for the UK and bad for Spain.

Sooo, erm local Spanish economies being affected by this good or a bad thing?

If it bad, it's due to your vote. Why deflect? Spanish local communities, UK fishing communities getting shafted. What's the real gain. Nor the vague promises and bs. What's the gain?

 

[Chicken Run]

I
If it bad, it's due to your vote. Why deflect? Spanish local communities, UK fishing communities getting shafted. What's the real gain. Nor the vague promises and be. What's the gain?

I haven’t deflected, Brexit imho will be good for the UK, I appreciate you remainers are falling over yourselves to bring the bad news stories to justify your displeasure and that is your right, I knew there would be trouble but come and see me in a year David and we will see how the UK is doing, not 10 weeks after the separation [emoji106]

 

[Randy McNob]

If it bad, it's due to your vote. Why deflect? Spanish local communities, UK fishing communities getting shafted. What's the real gain. Nor the vague promises and bs. What's the gain?

Strap yourself in.......get ready for the slogans.....

 

[Chicken Run]

So erm, not having the option to retire in warmer countries is good for the UK? So....bad for UK, bad for Spain, bad all round

But you do have the option,

from that article

 

[nicko31]

I haven’t deflected, Brexit imho will be good for the UK [emoji106]

Give us your top 5 so far, or do we have to wait 50 years?

 

[Chicken Run]

Strap yourself in.......get ready for the slogans.....

You won’t get any slogans from me [emoji106]

Night night

 

[Randy McNob]

I haven’t deflected, Brexit imho will be good for the UK, I appreciate you remainers are falling over yourselves to bring the bad news stories to justify your displeasure and that is your right, I knew there would be trouble but come and see me in a year David and we will see how the UK is doing, not 10 weeks after the separation [emoji106]

 

[vegster]

Express trolling their victims again..

Spanish exploitation of Brexit bureaucracy sparks British expats to flee back to UK

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1410151/Brexit-news-Spain-expats-Brussels-EU-latest

That picture of The Queen's Arms British Bar just makes me proud to be a European, marvellous gesture by the Spanish to allow it to open and look like that. I doubt if our local lads would allow a Spanish Bar over here to last too long before the complaints started rolling in............ " Bloody Spanish coming over here trying to get us to eat and drink their foreign muck... who won the battle of Trafalgar after all ? "

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Lovely stuff!