[Politics] Brexit

[pastafarian]

People from the black, Asian, and minority ethnic (BAME) community are reminded to vote in the referendum

 

[Two Professors]

I have all of them on DVD. They were made in the 1930s and 40s. How is this relevant to 2016?

So you are still saying comments like "A woman should be obscene and not heard" aren't sexist?

I've had enough of you Socialist Worker types-I'm off to a place that's sunny,but very shady,before the EU dynamite the tunnel,mine the ferryports,and set the Luftwaffe on us-think they've still got 2 planes that work.Oh no-they are busy taking photos of Syria,from a safe distance

 

[Trufflehound]

So you are still saying comments like "A woman should be obscene and not heard" aren't sexist?

I've had enough of you Socialist Worker types-I'm off to a place that's sunny,but very shady,before the EU dynamite the tunnel,mine the ferryports,and set the Luftwaffe on us-think they've still got 2 planes that work.Oh no-they are busy taking photos of Syria,from a safe distance

Bit random...

First paragraph accuses me of "still saying" something that I never said in the first place.

Second paragraph is just gibberish. I can't respond to it because I can't make head nor tail of it.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Freedom of speech alive and kicking I see. It really was a DIY disaster for Remain.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/673205/eu-referendum-george-osborne-brexit

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...orne-s-latest-apocalyptic-warning-Brexit.html

Articles like this in the Mail and Express are not likely to change the minds of one single voter, though, are they ?

 

[sir albion]

So now that the leave campaign has comprehensively lost the economic argument what's their main point of attack. Apologies for not keeping up with the thread but reading back through pages of partisan nonsense for the odd nugget just isn't worth risking my sanity. So if one of you leave chappies could summarise your best points that would be great thanks

The remain figures are plucked from thin air anyway and the 2 million unemployed and nod year recession bla bla bla.
We may take a step back if we leave,but we'll take 3 steps forward and flourish as we always do.
The point the "outers" are making far out weighs the bloody financial side in which is all the "in" camp bleed on about.Money money money....would you sell your child to someone? as staying in the EU is basically handing your county over to be controlled by Unknown people who offer you nothing back anyway!!!

I know that if we stay in you will get millions who will regret this as the European Union has big plans and we won't get a say in the matter just like the £2 billion fine we got for having a good economy.
Then you have the migration matters and 350,000 flocking in every single year and this may certainly increase as the EU grows at a rate of knots.

 

[drew]

They could make some up I suppose like the remain camp. Would that help?

They're not made up though, they are projections of what some economists think what will happen. You posted a reference to people who leave their jobs and set up on their own and compared Brexit to that. How many people start up without looking at the probability of success for their business. You will have a business plan. I don't see the Leave camp have anything like that other than some dream that everything will work out in the end!!!

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Articles like this in the Mail and Express are not likely to change the minds of one single voter, though, are they ?

But it is staged rubbish like this that is hurting the Remain vote. They have got to stop treating people like idiots, scaremongering, and even worse censoring people.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

They're not made up though, they are projections of what some economists think what will happen. You posted a reference to people who leave their jobs and set up on their own and compared Brexit to that. How many people start up without looking at the probability of success for their business. You will have a business plan. I don't see the Leave camp have anything like that other than some dream that everything will work out in the end!!!

Everything will work out in the end, and business will continue as normal. The world doesn't end at the EU.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

They're not made up though, they are projections of what some economists think what will happen. You posted a reference to people who leave their jobs and set up on their own and compared Brexit to that. How many people start up without looking at the probability of success for their business. You will have a business plan. I don't see the Leave camp have anything like that other than some dream that everything will work out in the end!!!

DREAM ? **** SAKE ARE WE JUST GOING TO LET THE COUNTRY GO TO RUINS, WAS IT IN RUINS BEFORE WE JOINED, THINK ABOUT IT DAY DREAMER !!!!
regards
DR

 

[Trufflehound]

But it is staged rubbish like this that is hurting the Remain vote. They have got to stop treating people like idiots, scaremongering, and even worse censoring people.

Substitute the word "Remain" for "Leave" and the statement remains (no pun intended) equally true. Both sides are shooting themselves in the feet with awe-inspiring accuracy.

 

[drew]

The remain figures are plucked from thin air anyway and the 2 million unemployed and nod year recession bla bla bla.
We may take a step back if we leave,but we'll take 3 steps forward and flourish as we always do.
The point the "outers" are making far out weighs the bloody financial side in which is all the "in" camp bleed on about.Money money money....would you sell your child to someone? as staying in the EU is basically handing your county over to be controlled by Unknown people who offer you nothing back anyway!!!

I know that if we stay in you will get millions who will regret this as the European Union has big plans and we won't get a say in the matter just like the £2 billion fine we got for having a good economy.
Then you have the migration matters and 350,000 flocking in every single year and this may certainly increase as the EU grows at a rate of knots.

It's laughable. Where is you evidence that we will take three steps forward!!! Talk about plucking things from thin air. The leave camp don't even have a consensus as to what we will aim for if we left. Would it be like Norway, Switzerland or Canada. Or is it something else?

 

[drew]

DREAM ? **** SAKE ARE WE JUST GOING TO LET THE COUNTRY GO TO RUINS, WAS IT IN RUINS BEFORE WE JOINED, THINK ABOUT IT DAY DREAMER !!!!
regards
DR

The world is a different place than it was in 1973 or are you not aware of that!

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

by coming out of the eu it won't stop refugees trying to get to england in fact it may get worst as the other eu countries will let them come.just a thought.

i've heard it all now
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

the world is a different place than it was in 1973 or are you not aware of that!

you missed the point
regards
DR

 

[GT49er]

They're not made up though, they are projections of what some economists think what will happen. You posted a reference to people who leave their jobs and set up on their own and compared Brexit to that. How many people start up without looking at the probability of success for their business. You will have a business plan. I don't see the Leave camp have anything like that other than some dream that everything will work out in the end!!!

".....projections of what some economists think what will happen". So, made up then.

 

[drew]

you missed the point
regards
DR

Apologies. Perhaps if you made the point clearer rather than capitalize everything that would help.

I'm guessing your view is that the country will go to ruin if we stay, mine is that it won't and more harm will be done if we leave. If I've got you wrong no doubt you will correct me.

 

[Bladders]

It's laughable. Where is you evidence that we will take three steps forward!!! Talk about plucking things from thin air. The leave camp don't even have a consensus as to what we will aim for if we left. Would it be like Norway, Switzerland or Canada. Or is it something else?

Odd, you expect the leave camp to tell you exactly how it will be if we leave , but are happy with the remain camp hanging their hat on worse case scenario forecasts and best guess work.

At the end of the day you're going to believe any figure the remain camp throw at you , no questions asked.

It would seem their guess work is good enough for you. That's fine

It's not good enough for me.

Anyway , away from the economy, which is all the remain have, ex military generals out today saying we'd be more secure outside the EU.

I'd take security over a few quid thanks

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Odd, you expect the leave camp to tell you exactly how it will be if we leave , but are happy with the remain camp hanging their hat on worse case scenario forecasts and best guess work.

At the end of the day you're going to believe any figure the remain camp throw at you , no questions asked.

It would seem their guess work is good enough for you. That's fine

It's not good enough for me.

Anyway , away from the economy, which is all the remain have, ex military generals out today saying we'd be more secure outside the EU.

I'd take security over a few quid thanks

what pisses me off is that the remain camp think we all work in the financial sector and have nothing else to think about in our life's
regards
DR

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

But it is staged rubbish like this that is hurting the Remain vote. They have got to stop treating people like idiots, scaremongering, and even worse censoring people.

Is it hurting the remain vote, or merely annoying he leave voters? I have not heard one 'remainer' complaining that they are being treated like an idiot by their own campaigners. No, this is Mail and Express attempting to encourage the undecided to vote leave, and like I implied, their readers are already decided..

I will also reiterate that I can see the exhilaration in voting leave, and certainly we would be as fully independent as anyone who lives on their own is independent. However, just like someone who lives alone, any and every engagement requires one either being very proactive and outgoing (paradoxically) or incredibly popular and attractive. I just can't see all our current EU partners falling over themselves to help us out if we Brexit, any more than I'd expect cheery txts and invites to dinner from Mr Tackle's brother in law if I become Mrs Tacklexited. Of course, I'd have the freedom to indulge in any whim that suits me, but frankly the crack whores and all night online gaming doesn't really appeal.

Look, it's all guesswork if we Brexit, but like any divorce, the only thing guaranteed is you will lose everything you liked about the marriage, as well as all the things that irritate you. Worth the risk? Divorce is not something to embrace lightly, in my book. So I am not reading about all the spats, claims, predictions etc. I am looking at what I have, now, and asking myself is it worth risking losing it. When sober, the answer is a resounding 'no'. When not sober, the answer is increasingly becoming a resounding 'no. Cheers, anyway

 

[GT49er]

Is it hurting the remain vote, or merely annoying he leave voters? I have not heard one 'remainer' complaining that they are being treated like an idiot by their own campaigners. No, this is Mail and Express attempting to encourage the undecided to vote leave, and like I implied, their readers are already decided..

I will also reiterate that I can see the exhilaration in voting leave, and certainly we would be as fully independent as anyone who lives on their own is independent. However, just like someone who lives alone, any and every engagement requires one either being very proactive and outgoing (paradoxically) or incredibly popular and attractive. I just can't see all our current EU partners falling over themselves to help us out if we Brexit, any more than I'd expect cheery txts and invites to dinner from Mr Tackle's brother in law if I become Mrs Tacklexited. Of course, I'd have the freedom to indulge in any whim that suits me, but frankly the crack whores and all night online gaming doesn't really appeal.

Look, it's all guesswork if we Brexit, but like any divorce, the only thing guaranteed is you will lose everything you liked about the marriage, as well as all the things that irritate you. Worth the risk? Divorce is not something to embrace lightly, in my book. So I am not reading about all the spats, claims, predictions etc. I am looking at what I have, now, and asking myself is it worth risking losing it. When sober, the answer is a resounding 'no'. When not sober, the answer is increasingly becoming a resounding 'no. Cheers, anyway

To use your analogy, if you're in a bad marriage, you're much better off out of it!