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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Jim D

Well-known member
Jul 23, 2003
5,268
Worthing
What EU corruption?

You've not seen that Luxembourg under Juncker has been allowing Amazon to get away with millions of Euros in tax? Also, doesn't the fact that the EU haven't had their accounts signed off by the auditors for years concern you? And that's before we get to the Irish government and Apple. It's a stinking mess and we're well out of it.
 


Jan 30, 2008
31,981
disgusting to think that this is being dragged out AGAINST THE DEMOCRATIC WILL OF THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED TO LEAVE , it's like Doctors giving out medication that isn't strong enough to treat the symptoms THEN GOING BACK AND GETTING THE SYMPTOMS TREATED PROPERLY, BYE BYE EU :bigwave:
regards
DR
 
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5ways

Well-known member
Sep 18, 2012
2,217
You've not seen that Luxembourg under Juncker has been allowing Amazon to get away with millions of Euros in tax? Also, doesn't the fact that the EU haven't had their accounts signed off by the auditors for years concern you? And that's before we get to the Irish government and Apple. It's a stinking mess and we're well out of it.

Not sure about this auditor stuff will have to look it up but with the Irish govt and Apple isn't it the EU who is fining Ireland for undermining the EU - which is good for EU business?
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
You've not seen that Luxembourg under Juncker has been allowing Amazon to get away with millions of Euros in tax? Also, doesn't the fact that the EU haven't had their accounts signed off by the auditors for years concern you? And that's before we get to the Irish government and Apple. It's a stinking mess and we're well out of it.

Estimated near £800Bn corruption every year across Europe ..

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-nearly-800bn-a-year-says-study-a6944436.html

.. but at least the EU with Juncker at the healm are well on top of it.

https://euobserver.com/opinion/136822
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,014
...but with the Irish govt and Apple isn't it the EU who is fining Ireland for undermining the EU - which is good for EU business?

EU is telling Ireland they havent taxed Apple correctly. Ireland says, yes we have according to our law (sales outside of Ireland aren't counted taxable revenue). EU says that law is wrong, change it. They actually have changed, but thats not enough for the EU, who want them to charge retrospective taxes. Ireland dont really want to because Apple is a major employer and frankly the EU should butt out.
 






BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
Yes. The car crash incompetence of our negotiators is compelling viewing.

As you say, we are out.

The sun will still come up and life will go on.

The problem with this thread is that we are irrevocably leaving the EU and some of you just dont get it, each step isnt to remain but to leave and therefore each step will never find favour with any avid Remainers political position, your 'bumbling' might be a Brexiteers 'standing firm', your hapless might be my 'determined' and so on, its nearly become a pointless exercise, ultimately the process of leaving is owned by us the Brexiteers and it hurts you.
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
The problem with this thread is that we are irrevocably leaving the EU and some of you just dont get it, each step isnt to remain but to leave and therefore each step will never find favour with any avid Remainers political position, your 'bumbling' might be a Brexiteers 'standing firm', your hapless might be my 'determined' and so on, its nearly become a pointless exercise, ultimately the process of leaving is owned by us the Brexiteers and it hurts you.
It doesn't hurt - the opposite really - as it's entertaining and fun to watch the negotiating clowns hurtling towards 'no deal'.
 




daveinprague

New member
Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
The problem with this thread is that we are irrevocably leaving the EU and some of you just dont get it, each step isnt to remain but to leave and therefore each step will never find favour with any avid Remainers political position, your 'bumbling' might be a Brexiteers 'standing firm', your hapless might be my 'determined' and so on, its nearly become a pointless exercise, ultimately the process of leaving is owned by us the Brexiteers and it hurts you.


You own **** all mate. The Tory party elite do ie the bumbling ****wits you decided to leave this matter to. They will do what suits them, which ever faction within the Tory party that is. Brexit voters own it?...haha... funny.
 


Berty23

Well-known member
Jun 26, 2012
3,643
The problem with this thread is that we are irrevocably leaving the EU and some of you just dont get it, each step isnt to remain but to leave and therefore each step will never find favour with any avid Remainers political position, your 'bumbling' might be a Brexiteers 'standing firm', your hapless might be my 'determined' and so on, its nearly become a pointless exercise, ultimately the process of leaving is owned by us the Brexiteers and it hurts you.

FYI.

irrevocably
ɪˈrɛvəkəbli
adverb
in a way that cannot be changed, reversed, or recovered.

A leader could say "we have explored this and it is not going to work, we are not ready and leaving would, in all likelihood irrevocably damage the country so I have worked with the EU and cancelled article 50."

In conclusion this is not irreversible yet. No matter how much people say it is. It will probably happen but it might not.
 


GT49er

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 1, 2009
49,181
Gloucester
What EU corruption?

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

.....and to think some desperate remainers still think leavers had a monopoly of ignorance when it came to casting their votes! That nice Mr. Cameron said it would be best to stay in and the sky would fall in if we left, and he was the Prime Minister, so we'd best vote 'remain' then, eh?
 




GT49er

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 1, 2009
49,181
Gloucester
This is a very interesting Twitter thread for all the Europhiles to digest. It basically sums up Greece's current state (which is very bad).

https://twitter.com/GreekAnalyst/status/903233221156118529

In a nutshell:

private sector bank deposits at an all-time low
Disposable income per capita almost halved since 2010
More than half the country now unable to provide emergency needs
Greek institutions as weak or dysfunctional as ever
Tax refunds due to be paid by government near record levels
Tax receipts have plummeted,
tax arrears at record levels
Consequently most Greek banks are now at risk
Greek private sector arrears to banks and the state stand at 130% of GDP. Excluding Cyprus, the next nearest in the EU is Ireland on 20%

..and Greek debt continues to rise...
...Stock of GR govt arrears & unprocessed claims has returned to mid-2015 level, despite ESM financing of €3.5bn for arrears clearance. (IMF)


Syriza, the left-wing government bizarrely refuses to cut expenditure but seeks to increase taxes despite the clear evidence that no-one has any money to pay them (94% of its policy mix is tax and 6% on austerity measures).

Now that's what I call a timebomb.

No worries - Brussels can easily bail them out with all the billions they will continue to drain from the UK.................................



..........................oh..........
 


BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
It doesn't hurt - the opposite really - as it's entertaining and fun to watch the negotiating clowns hurtling towards 'no deal'.

It isnt necessarily the 'no deal' bit but the hurtling towards Brexit and not Remain which sticks in your gullet, as we are not remaining there will be little for you to enjoy so you will just ridicule, its your default position your comments become predictable and irrelevant, its just regurgitated bile (not necessarily yours personally but the mainstay Remainers on this thread)
 


BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
You own **** all mate. The Tory party elite do ie the bumbling ****wits you decided to leave this matter to. They will do what suits them, which ever faction within the Tory party that is. Brexit voters own it?...haha... funny.

Did you post that in a Harry Kane frothy mouth kind of rant, yes we do own it you lot are just disgruntled bystanders looking on as we leave the EU.
 










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