Best UK Prime Minister ?

[B.M.F]

Wilson for me.

When was he PM

 

[Questions]

No WILSON

 

[London Calling]

I am sorry to hear that they happened to you, but they still happen. I was thinking that Blair inherited a buoyant ecomony from Major, or certainly on it's way up. There are countless stories, both now and then, about people missing out on medical treatment due to funding.

Repossessions are increasing and were at a 5 year high in 2006, set to increase.

Crime may have increased, although difficult to tell as new crimes were added. http://www.crimestatistics.org.uk/output/Page6.asp

Manufacturing jobs are being lost by their 1,000s daily.

1000's of manufacturing jobs are not being lost daily and if so, s what.

Manufacturing is not key in most parts of the UK, Brighton is dependent on services and tourism. The biggest lost in Brighton would be the Grand closing down.

I believe in the first few years of Blair socially minded people believed in Britain again as a fair, moral, ethical country. Alas, we have dragged back to a spiteful, bigoted, warmongering and careless state.

LC

 

[Chicken Run]

bloody hell the iron lady wins

 

[DTES]

The "Iron Lady" never asked "Am I bovvered?"

 

[mona]

I'm not a Tory but McMillan was a better PM than most people realise.

Am acutely depressed that so many on here voted for Thatcher. Yes she did make a difference and change the country but not usually for the best and she boasted about not having a transport policy and said the market would solve it. For that alone she was lousy.

 

[Chicken Run]

I'm actualry voting major, th epeoples pm and whine

 

[Beach Hut]

Maggie - my hero

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Thatcher by a county mile

 

[DTES]

Thatcher by a county mile

Hmm.

Thatcher:

The complete devastation of local councils
Quangos
Unemployment absolutely through the roof
Poll Tax!
Single-handed destruction of the welfare state
"There is no such thing as society" - Maggie Thatcher, 23rd September 1987

Blair

National Minimum Wage
Devolution for Scotland, Wales and even Northern Ireland
London elected by PR, maybe even more on the way for local governments
The freedom of information act
Equality laws, including stopping discrimination in the armed forces
Abortion Rights
National Statistics once again being independent
Reduced Poverty



Of course, many of you will want to type a long ranting reply (or maybe just a short abusive one) simply about Blair and Iraq. Before you do, please remember that the Thatcher government used £1 billion of Whitehall money in soft-loan guarantees to Saddam. They refused to stop lending funds to him even after he started to execute British journalists (Farzad Bazoft anyone?).


No? Not enough? Going to go down the civil liberties route? Ok... it was the Conservatives who introduced CCTV. And you're going to seriously suggest that the same party that
a) were even more gung-ho about Iraq and
b) Introduced internment and shoot-to-kill in Northern Ireland
wouldn't have introduced similar terror laws? Don't be ridiculous.

 

[cheeseroll]

Mrs T.

She changed the face of British Politics to a phenomenal degree. Right wing politics, free market economy, moving away from interventionist policies, privatisation rather than Nationalisation, the massive reduction in Trade Union powers.

All radical stuff of the day, but it proved so successful, that the next Labour government to get into power simply followed her lead, and if anything took decisions even further to the right, and away from traditional Socialist views, that Mrs T had ever done.

Amazing achievements, I really could go on for a long time on this one ...

unfucking believable....

 

[Stinky Kat]

Where's Clement Attlee?

good call

 

[bigc]

DTES, don't forget Thatcher abolishing the GLC, leaving London as the only capital in Europe without representation of that level.

Symbolism of Thatcher's Britain, a democratic building sold to a Japanese company!

 

[DTES]

Yes indeedy bigc, good point

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Labour. No longer supports THE WORKING FAMILY.

 

[bigc]

Yes indeedy bigc, good point

It says something that even the House of Lords opposed that.

Regardless of your opinion on its actions, it is surely against all democratic principles to simply abolish an institution because it is showing a determination to oppose your policies.

Similarly, it is also against all democratic principles to manipulate a selection process to eliminate a certain candidate you would find undesirable..

Whatever offence Ken may cause these days, the fact he overcame these two democratic deficits to become leader of a Greater London authority again gives me much respect to the Bloke.

 

[glasfryn]

Yes.

I just remember my ex girlfriend who died aged 23 because the NHS was starkly under funded. She had cystic fibrosis and would have survived now.

I remember my dad losing his job from Creeds because the economy was so run down.

I remember being beaten for a fiver aged 16 by a junkie in Brighton.

I remember a friend of mine having a complete nervous breakdown after having his house repossessed during the recession in 1990.

I remember a fake war with the Argentinians just to save Thatchers skin in the '83 election and I remember friends who's brothers were killed in action.

you are sir someone who lives in the REAL world

I can't believe that the bitch thatcher has so many votes and so few supporting posts

 

[BensGrandad]

I can't believe that the bitch thatcher has so many votes and so few supporting posts

Wasn't it Harold MacMillan who said ; youve never had it so good' which apptly applied to The Iron Lady Maggie the best..

 

[Cheshire Cat]

...and because clearly most of the voters here have no idea of the best post war PM (including whaever came up with this useless, misleading and criminally incomplete list).....

 

[Race]

Blair


Devolution for Scotland, Wales and even Northern Ireland
London elected by PR, maybe even more on the way for local governments
The freedom of information act
Equality laws, including stopping discrimination in the armed forces
Abortion Rights
National Statistics once again being independent
Reduced Poverty





devolution that we pay for...and have no say over their parliament, although they get a say in ours
london mayor who is an embarrassment to the country with his nazi views
freedom of information act that has been abused, not to mention the human rights law, which he claims as his biggest legacy, but turns out to be the single most harmful law to ever be thrust upon us(although his missus earns a nice crust out of it)
equality laws that only seem to operate one way
national statistics that are doctored in a way that would shame robert mugabe (which, while we're on the subject, judging by the governments silence on this matter shows their true colours)
lawless streets
gun and knife crime soaring
pensions f***ed up beyond repair
he should be done for treason