[Sussex] Artisan, Shoreham

[South Stand Bonfire]

The Southern Housing flats facing the road opposite McDonalds are still empty but were finished what, 8 months ago now? Anyone know if it’s because they are still waiting for the permanent electrical power to still be connected by UKPN? It seems to be a massive cock up by someone either way if they didn’t plan that work early enough.

 

[The Clamp]

Aye…..but living at the sort of north west end…..I can sometimes trundle down to the peace of the toll bridge and that stretch of river …and momentarily close my eyes to the crap that’s happening (I try to ignore the new warehouses )

Last vestige of tranquility around Shoreham apart form as you say, the Panettoni warehouses, and the Ropetackle 2 and the new housing estate .

 

[BrightonCottager]

I doubt he’ll stick his head above the parapet on this thread then, and if he does I’d like to see him explain the logic (outside of brown envelopes) behind what’s gone on.

It's not me, but the proposals for the redevelopment of the port and surrounding area were laid out in a Joint Area Action Plan (JAAP) which was open to public comment, there were public exhibitions etc. There is a housing shortage and the old industrial sites around Shoreham and along the A259 were / are the largest collection of 'brownfield ' land in the area. They were always going to be earmarked for housing. They've been built high enough to be above flood levels (as predicted when permission was given and for 100 years thereafter), but Southern Water are way behind on upgrading their wastewater treatment to cope.

Adur Council are preparing a new Local Plan to shape future development. You can read about it and get involved here

 

[Shorehamkid]

It's not me, but the proposals for the redevelopment of the port and surrounding area were laid out in a Joint Area Action Plan (JAAP) which was open to public comment, there were public exhibitions etc. There is a housing shortage and the old industrial sites around Shoreham and along the A259 were / are the largest collection of 'brownfield ' land in the area. They were always going to be earmarked for housing. They've been built high enough to be above flood levels (as predicted when permission was given and for 100 years thereafter), but Southern Water are way behind on upgrading their wastewater treatment to cope.

Adur Council are preparing a new Local Plan to shape future development. You can read about it and get involved here

While I understand this, and deep down knew this was always gonna happen to the town, it’s just a shame they couldn’t brownfield up some infrastructure to go with it. Schools, Doctors, road networks and utilities are secondary to the actual money making aspect of bashing these ‘affordable’ homes up in record time and throwing people inside them.

Can open anything up to public comment and exhibition, they do that because they are mandated too and not for any other reason… a slight tweak here or there may follow from it but I’ve no interest in being in a room opposite some blokes in cheap suits who could barely spell Shoreham (let alone place it on a map).

I understand the need for more housing, but not at any cost.

 

[The Clamp]

Quite.

It’s already got 7 new blocks of flats, a luxury housing development, a bunch of massive empty warehouses and a new housing estate.

None of which ar particularly affordable.

They need to give Shoreham a breather.

Stop building flats for a few years and build some infrastructure.

 

[Chicken Run]

It's not me, but the proposals for the redevelopment of the port and surrounding area were laid out in a Joint Area Action Plan (JAAP) which was open to public comment, there were public exhibitions etc. There is a housing shortage and the old industrial sites around Shoreham and along the A259 were / are the largest collection of 'brownfield ' land in the area. They were always going to be earmarked for housing. They've been built high enough to be above flood levels (as predicted when permission was given and for 100 years thereafter), but Southern Water are way behind on upgrading their wastewater treatment to cope.

Adur Council are preparing a new Local Plan to shape future development. You can read about it and get involved here

So with all these wonderful and i’m assuming affordable apartments springing up there will be a large medical centre built for all the new residents?

 

[Chicken Run]

Quite.

It’s already got 7 new blocks of flats, a luxury housing development, a bunch of massive empty warehouses and a new housing estate.

None of which ar particularly affordable.

They need to give Shoreham a breather.

Stop building flats for a few years and build some infrastructure.

They need to do this in Brighton & Hove too

 

[The Clamp]

So with all these wonderful and i’m assuming affordable apartments springing up there will be a large medical centre built for all the new residents?

They are redoing the medical centre opposite the Shoreham centre. But I don’t think it has increased capacity. Certainly not enough for the number of new residents.

The new-ish block of flats opposite the gym has got a private dentist underneath it so I guess we should all shut up and be thankful.

 

[The Clamp]

All the young Brighton Drift families that moved over a few years ago (I’m not blaming them), their kids are now in their teens and have f*** all to do except hang out on Coronation Green, because Shoreham was built as small riverside town with public amenities that reflected that.

I realise towns have to move forward to stay alive but Shoreham has become just another commuters weekend playground, albeit a quite nice one.

 

[Chicken Run]

All the young Brighton Drift families that moved over a few years ago (I’m not blaming them), their kids are now in their teens and have f*** all to do except hang out on Coronation Green, because Shoreham was built as small riverside town with public amenities that reflected that.

I realise towns have to move forward to stay alive but Shoreham has become just another commuters weekend playground, albeit a quite nice one.

You pack out a Rat House with more and more Rats and don’t increase the size of the house they eventually start eating each other, good luck Clamp

 

[LamieRobertson]

It's not me, but the proposals for the redevelopment of the port and surrounding area were laid out in a Joint Area Action Plan (JAAP) which was open to public comment, there were public exhibitions etc. There is a housing shortage and the old industrial sites around Shoreham and along the A259 were / are the largest collection of 'brownfield ' land in the area. They were always going to be earmarked for housing. They've been built high enough to be above flood levels (as predicted when permission was given and for 100 years thereafter), but Southern Water are way behind on upgrading their wastewater treatment to cope.

Adur Council are preparing a new Local Plan to shape future development. You can read about it and get involved here

Lol…..yeah we know it wa all laid out and some of us queried various things, doesnt mean we were taken any notice of …and I’m aware of the new plan/proposed…contacted my councillor etc …not sure previous mistakes are going to be learnt from.

the majority of us wouldnt argue when people said that the stretch of road running along the coast from Southwick to Shoreham was in need of redevelopment (ironically the biggest eyesore/scrap metal site is still there)….and that there is a need for more ‘housing’….but firstly not block after block of 1/2 bedroom flats …howabout mixed accommodation to include houses for more than say a small family……green parts etc …then of course the infrastructure that goes to support it….plenty of room for that along the coast road ..has it happened no…will it happen nope ..they’ve made a mess of it ….i’ve lived in Shoreham all my 65 years and accept change as in life has to happen…but a change to the better? Not that i can see.

 

[LamieRobertson]

The Southern Housing flats facing the road opposite McDonalds are still empty but were finished what, 8 months ago now? Anyone know if it’s because they are still waiting for the permanent electrical power to still be connected by UKPN? It seems to be a massive cock up by someone either way if they didn’t plan that work early enough.

Would that be to do with the 2 large blocks still being built the south side of it?

 

[Bry Nylon]

They are redoing the medical centre opposite the Shoreham centre. But I don’t think it has increased capacity. Certainly not enough for the number of new residents.

The new-ish block of flats opposite the gym has got a private dentist underneath it so I guess we should all shut up and be thankful.

Needs to be some joined-up thinking here.

That new build development on a former sand quarry in Godstone has just got a new 65ft outdoor swimming pool, yet all Shoreham gets is a lick of paint and new carpet tiles in the medical centre. Postcode lottery.

 

[Binney on acid]

When are they going to rename Shoreham Shorehattan, and twin it with Manhattan ? It's times like this that you kinda miss the Luftwaffe.

 

[LamieRobertson]

When are they going to rename Shoreham Shorehattan, and twin it with Manhattan ? It's times like this that you kinda miss the Luftwaffe.

Lol….you still got that place near St Marys

 

[Binney on acid]

Lol….you still got that place near St Marys

Yep ! It's about time that we went out for a coffee and a chat. Hector's is a matter of metres from where I live.

 

[Chicken Run]

Needs to be some joined-up thinking here.

That new build development on a former sand quarry in Godstone has just got a new 65ft outdoor swimming pool, yet all Shoreham gets is a lick of paint and new carpet tiles in the medical centre. Postcode lottery.

Yeah but they got some incredibly vibrant DFL Cock apoo owners wandering around the Saturday Artisan markets falling over themselves for an outside table at the East St Coffee house whilst their womb rats run amok darling

 

[Brovion]

It's not me, but the proposals for the redevelopment of the port and surrounding area were laid out in a Joint Area Action Plan (JAAP) which was open to public comment, there were public exhibitions etc. There is a housing shortage and the old industrial sites around Shoreham and along the A259 were / are the largest collection of 'brownfield ' land in the area. They were always going to be earmarked for housing. They've been built high enough to be above flood levels (as predicted when permission was given and for 100 years thereafter), but Southern Water are way behind on upgrading their wastewater treatment to cope.

Adur Council are preparing a new Local Plan to shape future development. You can read about it and get involved here

Consultation was only about six weeks and closed on 5th January. Have you read 'The Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy?'

I completely understand your point though, and I'm not going to pick up my pitchfork and blazing torch. Indeed there is something about planning and development that brings out the complete and utter Stalinist in me. My default position is to always support development. Sometimes I might bother to look at the facts in a bit more detail, but in general I support all development: houses, roads, railways, reservoirs, industrial estates, prisons, hospitals, coal mines, oil fields, airport extensions, etc etc etc. etc. I understand there are often real and relevant objections, but I do feel that ultimately all protestors against developments should be rounded up and shot / forced into re-education camps have it gently explained to them why their legitimate grievances have to be ignored. We need stuff. And we need it now. Go Rachel!

Consequently I would be a bit of a hypocrite if I opposed all this ....... but I do feel that it's not just 'Homes Alone' we need. And I do have some skin in the game here. My son was able to get his first place because there WAS affordable housing included in earlier developments, it wasn't all luxury pads for city slickers. (He lives in shared housing block opposite the Welly). That is of course absolutely brilliant. However we are worried, amongst other things, about a local secondary school place for our grandson. And of course the transport situation is getting worse and worse.

 

[Chicken Run]

The Southern Housing flats facing the road opposite McDonalds are still empty but were finished what, 8 months ago now? Anyone know if it’s because they are still waiting for the permanent electrical power to still be connected by UKPN? It seems to be a massive cock up by someone either way if they didn’t plan that work early enough.

Or the Government have stepped in and seconded them for those from overseas seeking the warmth and safety this country is able to provide them

 

[perseus]

Quite.

It’s already got 7 new blocks of flats, a luxury housing development, a bunch of massive empty warehouses and a new housing estate.

None of which ar particularly affordable.

They need to give Shoreham a breather.

Stop building flats for a few years and build some infrastructure.

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