[Politics] Are Labour going to turn this country around?

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

And who has managed to drive this country into such a calamitous state that it will take 'a huge amount of effort to turn around'

Tony Blair!

Do keep up up at the front.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I'd advocate banning the import of oil, gas and coal, and only consuming what can be produced from our territorial resources*. This would give us the benefit of being able to control the methods of extraction, transport and use, provide local employment, reduce the environmental impact of transporting these commodities, and keep wealth within our own economy.

This would also allow us to properly manage our transition to less carbon intensive sources, whilst maintaining energy independence.


* we may need some flexibility if our resources don't produce enough.

Sounds like a reset to 1955 to me.

But with 2025 levels of demand.

It could work, although....

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

More flights, more emissions, more noise - what's not to like!

Less crowding, more flexibility, and probably not all that many extra flights unless Labour have plans to allow 24 h take off/landing, or make the sky bigger.

 

[Simster]

I sure you’ll agree it was quite significant, the old credit card took one hell of a beating.

But what's the point in discussing it with you? You're ignorant. There is literally no recognition of the appalling mess the Conservatives have left this country.

 

[Machiavelli]

They've been talking about it forever.

With 15% of people taking 70% of flights. Just give everyone a flight quota, after that you pay a significant climate levy.

That would halt the crazy expansion of an industry subsidised for decades with tax breaks

This is so obvious, and has been for such a long time. What could it be that's prevented it from happening?
To add, over 50% of the population don't use flights.

 

[Is it PotG?]

But what's the point in discussing it with you? You're ignorant. There is literally no recognition of the appalling mess the Conservatives have left this country.

Let's hope the Brain Trust in red don't have to endure a COVID and onset of Ukraine.
Ignorant is a bit harsh, but if it makes you feel better.

 

[Simster]

Let's hope the Brain Trust in red don't have to endure a COVID and onset of Ukraine.
Ignorant is a bit harsh, but if it makes you feel better.

It's not harsh. You ARE ignorant. Your posts are dripping with it.

 

[Is it PotG?]

It's not harsh. You ARE ignorant. Your posts are dripping with it.

Thanks mate.

 

[WATFORD zero]

It's not harsh. You ARE ignorant. Your posts are dripping with it.

I agree he is ignorant, but most of us make posts that others of a different view could be considered ignorant, particularly if you lament the loss of Johnson, Truss etc like our friend.

However, not being happy with simple trolling, ignorance and stupidity, spending months setting up accounts to deliberately pick on people who have been open and honest about their neurodiversity on NSC is a little different.

By a little different, I mean completely and absolutely c***ish and I'm not sure anyone would try and defend that

 

[Pavilionaire]

Until a political party is willing to campaign on reversing Brexit then whoever is in power is flogging a dead horse.

What I find perverse is that the majority of people admit Brexit has made us poorer, yet the man favourite to be the next Prime Minister after Starmer is Nigel Farage, the chief architect and catalyst for this absolute economic shitshow.

I am under no illusion that it is just a matter of time before what happened in the USA with Trump will happen over here with Farage, except that Farage has none of the chutzpah or Alpha Male traits that Trump possesses.

 

[abc]

She's had 7 months and ONE budget FFS.

And what a disaster she has made of it

 

[WATFORD zero]

And what a disaster she has made of it

14 years of economic and political brilliance destroyed by one dodgy budget. You put forward an absolutely compelling case

Quick, somebody say Rwanda

 

[Rdodge30]

Tony Blair!

Do keep up up at the front.

Whilst it is most certainly true that the last Labour Government left the country with higher inflation- higher unemployment and higher national debt to GDP than the Tories left us last year… Gordon Brown was almost certainly more to blame than Tony Blair.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Whilst it is most certainly true that the last Labour Government left the country with higher inflation- higher unemployment and higher national debt to GDP than the Tories left us last year… Gordon Brown was almost certainly more to blame than Tony Blair.

And there was me thinking you were one of those self proclaimed 'centrists'. So Cameron, May, Johnson, Farage, Truss and Sunak's hands were 'forced' by what Brown did ?

The poor loves

 

[carlzeiss]

Can somebody make Ed look presentable for a mere $41,000 ?

Ed Miliband hiring taxpayer-funded photographer

The energy secretary is advertising for a £41,000-a-year role, despite previously criticising David Cameron for doing the same

www.thetimes.com

 

[Rdodge30]

And there was me thinking you were one of those self proclaimed 'centrists'. So Cameron, May, Johnson, Farage, Truss and Sunak's hands were 'forced' by what Brown did

Not what I said was it WZ ? You maintain your 100% record of reading 1 or 2 sentences that I write and making up a load of complete bollocks and claiming that’s what I said !!

Fortunately you are very well known on here

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

They've been talking about it forever.

With 15% of people taking 70% of flights. Just give everyone a flight quota, after that you pay a significant climate levy.

That would halt the crazy expansion of an industry subsidised for decades with tax breaks

I’d be up for everyone having a carbon quota. I’d also be up for folk being able to trade the quota e.g. if you choose not to fly you can trade your quota with someone who wants to fly but has reached their limit.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Not what I said was it WZ ? You maintain your 100% record of reading 1 or 2 sentences that I write and making up a load of complete bollocks and claiming that’s what I said !!

Fortunately you are very well known on here

Your quote is there, in full, completely unedited, exactly as you wrote it

And, as you say, very well known on here, posting the exact same views, from the same one and only account, for over 20 years, whilst multiple other accounts come and go

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Can somebody make Ed look presentable for a mere $41,000 ?

Ed Miliband hiring taxpayer-funded photographer

The energy secretary is advertising for a £41,000-a-year role, despite previously criticising David Cameron for doing the same

www.thetimes.com

The 41 thousand dollar question?

 

[Bold Seagull]

Whilst it is most certainly true that the last Labour Government left the country with higher inflation- higher unemployment and higher national debt to GDP than the Tories left us last year… Gordon Brown was almost certainly more to blame than Tony Blair.

Not the global financial crash that left the world's economy with higher inflation, higher unemployment and higher national debt?