Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

[Nibble]

My favourite theory is the ludicrous suggestion Stanley Kubrick made the Shining as his "confession" that he faked the moon landing for NASA and the American Government

Have you seen the unofficial doc made about that (NOT Room 237 or whatever it was called) made by a bunch of CT bods? It is so convoluted, so incoherent, so ludicrous I turned it off after a half an hour.

 

[Mowgli37]

Have you seen the unofficial doc made about that (NOT Room 237 or whatever it was called) made by a bunch of CT bods? It is so convoluted, so incoherent, so ludicrous I turned it off after a half an hour.

This one?

 

[Nibble]

This one?

Looks like it. I stopped watching when they were saying there was no maze anywhere on the aerial photographs of the hotel as they showed an aerial shot of the hotel with the maze clearly visible. They were trying to link this to there being no moon landing or something. They go on about the place not making geographical sense and that eludes to the faking of the landing or something. In fact Kubrick deliberately shot the film so that the hotel makes no geographical sense, ie kitchen being in different locations in different shots etc to disorientate the viewer. It's pretty painful and hard to follow.

 

[symyjym]

This one?

Wow, got to 13 mins will watch the rest later for a larf.

Is this an IQ test or gullibility experiment or something, or do the makers of this really believe what they are talking about? It has spoof written all over it.

 

[symyjym]

This is a funny one;

2012 Olympic conspiracy medal symbols

 

[Norman Potting]

Whatever happened to Brunswick, that's a conspiracy surely?

 

[Goldstone76]

Goldstone76, are you still looking for that thermite evidence or you given up?

Lets just agree to disagree.. facts are facts and I dont see how anyone here or even me can argue with +1600 specialists/engineers and professors when they call for the truth to come out. The call is for the victims families who as a majority want an independent inquiry. The world is also due an independent inquiry because the sum result of 911 was the USA/UK going to war for all the wrong reasons. Your democracy and freedoms are at stake and Im really very surprised that the majority here just accept the facts as presented by one of the most hideous governments the USA has ever produced.

1) Nano Thermite found in the dust at Ground Zero. Peer reviewed in the Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal. 'Thermite Bentham', "The great thermate debate", 'Iron rich spheres', 'Limited Metallurgical Examination (FEMA C-13, Appendix C-6)'.‘Steven Jones’ ‘Niels Harrit’, ‘Mark Basile’, ‘Jon Cole’, 'Nano Tubes'.
2) 2000+ Engineers and Architects support a real independent 9/11 investigation. 'Explosive Evidence','Blueprint for Truth', 'Toronto Hearings', ‘Richard Gage’, 'Kevin Ryan', 'ae911truth.org’.
3) The total collapse of WTC 7 in 6.5 seconds at free fall acceleration (NIST admits 2.25 seconds).Larry Silverstein used the term "Pull it". Steel framed high rise buildings have NEVER totally collapsed from fire or structural damage. Building 7 was not hit by a plane. 'Building 7', 'WTC 7'.
4) Dick Cheney was incommand of NORAD on 9/11 while running war games. 'Stand down order'. "Ofcourse the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary?”."Gave order to shootdown Flight 93.", 'NORAD Drills'. ‘NormanMineta’. “PEOC”
5) 6 out of the 10 Commissioners believe the 9/11 Commission report was, "Setup to fail" Co Chairs Hamilton and Kean. "It was a 30 year conspiracy", "The white house has played cover up", 'Max Cleland resigned', 'John Farmer'.
6) FBI confiscated 84/85 Videos from the Pentagon. Pentagon Security CCTV(FOIA) does not show a757 and is clearly missing a frame. 'Sheraton Hotel', "Double tree','Citgo''. 'Moussaoui trial'. ‘Judicial Watch’. ‘Maguire declaration’.
7) Osama Bin Laden was NOT wanted by the FBI for the 9/11 attacks. "No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11." CIA created,trained and funded "Al Qaeda/Taliban" during the Mujahideen. OBL was a CIA asset named 'Tim Osman'. OBL Reported dead in Dec 2001.
8) 100's of Firefighters and witness testimony to BOMBS/EXPLOSIONS ignored by the 9/11Commission Report. 9/11 Commission Report bars 503 1st responder eyewitnesses."Explosions in the lobby and sub levels", 'Firefighter explosions','Barry Jennings', 'William Rodriguez'.
9) 100's of firefighters and witness testimony to MOLTEN METAL ignored by the Commission report. "Like you're in a foundry", "NIST's John Gross denies the existence of Molten Metal", 'Swiss Cheese', "As of 21 days afterthe attack, the fires were still burning and molten steel was still running." Leslie Robertson'.
10) '5 DancingIsraeli's' arrested in 'Mossad Truck Bombs' on 9/11 that stated "We werethere to document the event." 'Urban Moving Systems' front company,'Dominic Suter'. "$498,750 Business loan (June 2001)". "OfficerDeCarlo', 'Art Students', 'Israeli Spying'.
11) On September 10th,2001. Rumsfeld reported $2.3 TRILLION missing from the Pentagon. 'Dov Zakheim' Pentagon Comptroller. Former VP of 'Systems Planning Corporation' (Flight Termination System). Signatore of PNAC document.
12) 220+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials question the official story. '9/11 Whistle blowers', 'Patriots for 9/11'.'Robert Bowman', 'Sibel Edmonds', 'Albert Stubblebine', 'Wesley Clark', 'MarkDayton', 'Alan Sabrosky', 'Cyntha McKinney', 'Jesse Ventura', 'KurtSonnenfeld'. "patriotsquestion911.com"
13) Towers were built to withstand a Boeing jet(s). "I designed it for a 707 to hit it",Leslie Robertson, WTC structural engineer. "Could probably sustain multiple impacts of jetliners", "like a pencil puncturing screen netting" Frank De Martini, deceased Manager of WTC Construction &Project Management. "As far as a plane knocking a building over, that would not happen." Charlie Thornton, Structural Engineer.
14) History of American False Flag attacks. 'USS Liberty', 'Gulf of Tonkin', 'Operation Northwoods','OKC Bombing (Murrah Building)', '1993 WTC attacks'. 'Patrick Clawson'. Project for the New American Century (PNAC) needed "a New Pearl Harbor","Rebuilding America's Defenses". 9/11 Achieved those goals. 'Anthrax'.
15) BBC correspondent Jane Standley reported the collapse of WTC 7 (Soloman Brothers building) 20 minutes before it happened. CNN/FOX/MSNBC also had early reports. 'BBC wtc 7','Jane Standley', Ashleigh Banfield'.
16) "Flight 93" debris was spread out over many miles. Cheney admits to giving the order to shoot down 93. "shot down the plane over Pennsylvania"Rumsfeld, "nothing that you could distinguish that a plane had crashed there" 'Chris Konicki. "Not a drop of blood" Coroner Wallace Miller. "there was no plane." Mayor Ernie Stull.
17) Bush hesitated for 441 days before starting the 911 Commission. 'Jersey Girls'. 'Phil Zelikow' already wrote the outline before the commission began. ‘Steel shipped overseas’. JFK and Pearl Harbor commissions were started within 7 days.
18) The 911 commission was only given $15 million to investigate 9/11. Initially only $3 million was given. ‘Not enough money’. (Over $60 Million was spent investigating Clintons' affairs with Monica).
19) Bush said he watched the first plane crash into the North tower on TV before entering the classroom."The TV was obviously on." Bush was informed about the second impact while reading 'The Pet Goat' with the children for at least 8 more minutes while America was under "attack".
20) The PATRIOT ACT was written before 9/11 and signed into law on October 26th, 2001. Just 45 days after 9/11
21) Marvin Bush, director of Stratesec (Securacom, 'KuAm') was in charge of security of the WTC, United Airlines and Dulles International Airport. All three were breached on 9/11. ICTS also provided security at 9/11 airports. 'Marvin Bush', 'Barry McDaniel', 'Wirt Walker', 'ICTS', 'WTC power downs'.
22) "Who killed John O'Neil?". Former FBI task force agent investigating Al Qaeda/Bin Laden. Transferred by Kroll Corporation to head the security just before 9/11.John O'Neil died in the Towers. 'Jerome Hauer' 'Jules Kroll'.
23) Insider trading based upon foreknowledge. 'Put Options'. Never identified insiders made millions. 'United and American Airlines' 'Raytheon'. ‘Missing gold’. ‘Black Eagle Trust Fund’.
24) Atleast 7 of the 19 listed hijackers are alive (BBC). No video footage of 19 hijackers or passengers boarding the 4 planes. Pilots of the 4 planes never squawked the hijacking code (7500). 'Alive hijackers','ACARS', 'Pilots for 9/11 Truth'.

WTC 7 (The SmokingGun)
http://rememberbuilding7.org/

Building 7 was a 47-story skyscraper and was part of the World Trade Center complex.Built in 1984, it would have been the tallest high-rise in 33 states in the United States. It collapsed at 5:20 pm on September 11, 2001 in 6.5 Seconds at free fall acceleration. It was not hit by an airplane and suffered minimal damage compared to other buildings much closer to the Twin Towers.

7 FACTS aboutBuilding 7
1) If fire caused Building 7 to collapse, it would be the first ever fire-induced collapse of a steel-frame high-rise.
2) Building 7’s collapse was not mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report.
3) According to a Zogby poll in 2006, 43% of Americans did not know about Building 7.
4) It took the federal government seven years to conduct an investigation and issue a report for Building 7.
5) 1,600+ architects and engineers have signed a petition calling for a new investigation that would include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives for the collapse of Building 7.
6) Numerous witnesses say the possibility of demolishing Building 7 was widely discussed by emergency personnel at the scene and advocated by the building’s owner.
7) Building 7 housed several intelligence and law enforcement agencies, and the NYC Office of Emergency Management’s Emergency Operations Center (23rd floor), more commonly known as “Giuliani’s Bunker”.

Simple Facts ofTemperatures:
~1535ºC(2795ºF) - melting point of iron.
~1510ºC(2750ºF) - melting point of typical structural steel.
~825ºC(1517ºF) - maximum temperature of hydrocarbon fires burning in the atmospherewithout pressurization or pre-heating (premixed fuel and air - blue flame).
Diffuse flames burn far cooler.
Oxygen-starved diffuse flames are cooler yet. The fires in the Towers were diffuse and well below 800ºC.
Source:http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/melting-temperature-metals-d_860.html

JetFuel (JET A-1): "Commercial jet fuel is essentially kerosene..."
~260-315°C(500-599°F) - open air burning temperature of JET A-1.
~980°C(1796°F) - maximum burning temperature of JET A-1.
Sources:http://mepetroleum.com/jet_fuel.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel

"It is believed that almost all of the jet fuel that remained on the impact floors was consumed in the first few minutes of the fire." Source: FEMA (Page 22)
http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_ch2.pdf

Other:
~2500ºC (4532ºF) - maximum temperature of Thermite.
~660ºC (1120ºF) - melting point of Aluminum (turns silver rapidly when cooled).
~233ºC (451ºF) - Ignition temperature of paper (No chemicals added).
~1800-2500°C (3272-4532°F) - Melting point of Concrete.

"Like you're in a foundry."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCdRA09pztM
-----------------------------------
THE HARD FACTS ABOUT 9/11 (VIDEO EDITION)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv6C6Tf4MGE
Updated:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H2wr0khnJA
-------------------------------------------
9/11: A Conspiracy Theory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98
-------------------------------------
WHO DID 9/11? (103Suspects)
http://www.whodidit.org/cocon.html

 

[Mowgli37]

Wow, got to 13 mins will watch the rest later for a larf.

Is this an IQ test or gullibility experiment or something, or do the makers of this really believe what they are talking about?

Unfortunately with theorists it's usually the latter!

 

[beorhthelm]

Lets just agree to disagree.. facts are facts and I dont see how anyone here or even me can argue with +1600 specialists/engineers and professors when they call for the truth to come out.

no lets not, why not be honest that you have nothing? the facts are manipulated to agendas, you have pulled a wall of text but no evidence of a simple case. the fact is there is no evidnce of thermite, only at best anacdotal evidence that some some metal that looks like outcome of thermite reactions was present. no actual thermite (ie assumes that all was consumed) despite the hundred of kilos required to cut through the amount of steel. I'm arguing with 1600 specialists because they represent a 100th of 1% of the total number of specialists, who for some reason remain silent. really? work it out.

 

[One Love]

Lets just agree to disagree.. facts are facts and I dont see how anyone here or even me can argue with +1600 specialists/engineers and professors when they call for the truth to come out. The call is for the victims families who as a majority want an independent inquiry. The world is also due an independent inquiry because the sum result of 911 was the USA/UK going to war for all the wrong reasons. Your democracy and freedoms are at stake and Im really very surprised that the majority here just accept the facts as presented by one of the most hideous governments the USA has ever produced.

1) Nano Thermite found in the dust at Ground Zero. Peer reviewed in the Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal. 'Thermite Bentham', "The great thermate debate", 'Iron rich spheres', 'Limited Metallurgical Examination (FEMA C-13, Appendix C-6)'.‘Steven Jones’ ‘Niels Harrit’, ‘Mark Basile’, ‘Jon Cole’, 'Nano Tubes'.
2) 2000+ Engineers and Architects support a real independent 9/11 investigation. 'Explosive Evidence','Blueprint for Truth', 'Toronto Hearings', ‘Richard Gage’, 'Kevin Ryan', 'ae911truth.org’.
3) The total collapse of WTC 7 in 6.5 seconds at free fall acceleration (NIST admits 2.25 seconds).Larry Silverstein used the term "Pull it". Steel framed high rise buildings have NEVER totally collapsed from fire or structural damage. Building 7 was not hit by a plane. 'Building 7', 'WTC 7'.
4) Dick Cheney was incommand of NORAD on 9/11 while running war games. 'Stand down order'. "Ofcourse the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary?”."Gave order to shootdown Flight 93.", 'NORAD Drills'. ‘NormanMineta’. “PEOC”
5) 6 out of the 10 Commissioners believe the 9/11 Commission report was, "Setup to fail" Co Chairs Hamilton and Kean. "It was a 30 year conspiracy", "The white house has played cover up", 'Max Cleland resigned', 'John Farmer'.
6) FBI confiscated 84/85 Videos from the Pentagon. Pentagon Security CCTV(FOIA) does not show a757 and is clearly missing a frame. 'Sheraton Hotel', "Double tree','Citgo''. 'Moussaoui trial'. ‘Judicial Watch’. ‘Maguire declaration’.
7) Osama Bin Laden was NOT wanted by the FBI for the 9/11 attacks. "No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11." CIA created,trained and funded "Al Qaeda/Taliban" during the Mujahideen. OBL was a CIA asset named 'Tim Osman'. OBL Reported dead in Dec 2001.
8) 100's of Firefighters and witness testimony to BOMBS/EXPLOSIONS ignored by the 9/11Commission Report. 9/11 Commission Report bars 503 1st responder eyewitnesses."Explosions in the lobby and sub levels", 'Firefighter explosions','Barry Jennings', 'William Rodriguez'.
9) 100's of firefighters and witness testimony to MOLTEN METAL ignored by the Commission report. "Like you're in a foundry", "NIST's John Gross denies the existence of Molten Metal", 'Swiss Cheese', "As of 21 days afterthe attack, the fires were still burning and molten steel was still running." Leslie Robertson'.
10) '5 DancingIsraeli's' arrested in 'Mossad Truck Bombs' on 9/11 that stated "We werethere to document the event." 'Urban Moving Systems' front company,'Dominic Suter'. "$498,750 Business loan (June 2001)". "OfficerDeCarlo', 'Art Students', 'Israeli Spying'.
11) On September 10th,2001. Rumsfeld reported $2.3 TRILLION missing from the Pentagon. 'Dov Zakheim' Pentagon Comptroller. Former VP of 'Systems Planning Corporation' (Flight Termination System). Signatore of PNAC document.
12) 220+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials question the official story. '9/11 Whistle blowers', 'Patriots for 9/11'.'Robert Bowman', 'Sibel Edmonds', 'Albert Stubblebine', 'Wesley Clark', 'MarkDayton', 'Alan Sabrosky', 'Cyntha McKinney', 'Jesse Ventura', 'KurtSonnenfeld'. "patriotsquestion911.com"
13) Towers were built to withstand a Boeing jet(s). "I designed it for a 707 to hit it",Leslie Robertson, WTC structural engineer. "Could probably sustain multiple impacts of jetliners", "like a pencil puncturing screen netting" Frank De Martini, deceased Manager of WTC Construction &Project Management. "As far as a plane knocking a building over, that would not happen." Charlie Thornton, Structural Engineer.
14) History of American False Flag attacks. 'USS Liberty', 'Gulf of Tonkin', 'Operation Northwoods','OKC Bombing (Murrah Building)', '1993 WTC attacks'. 'Patrick Clawson'. Project for the New American Century (PNAC) needed "a New Pearl Harbor","Rebuilding America's Defenses". 9/11 Achieved those goals. 'Anthrax'.
15) BBC correspondent Jane Standley reported the collapse of WTC 7 (Soloman Brothers building) 20 minutes before it happened. CNN/FOX/MSNBC also had early reports. 'BBC wtc 7','Jane Standley', Ashleigh Banfield'.
16) "Flight 93" debris was spread out over many miles. Cheney admits to giving the order to shoot down 93. "shot down the plane over Pennsylvania"Rumsfeld, "nothing that you could distinguish that a plane had crashed there" 'Chris Konicki. "Not a drop of blood" Coroner Wallace Miller. "there was no plane." Mayor Ernie Stull.
17) Bush hesitated for 441 days before starting the 911 Commission. 'Jersey Girls'. 'Phil Zelikow' already wrote the outline before the commission began. ‘Steel shipped overseas’. JFK and Pearl Harbor commissions were started within 7 days.
18) The 911 commission was only given $15 million to investigate 9/11. Initially only $3 million was given. ‘Not enough money’. (Over $60 Million was spent investigating Clintons' affairs with Monica).
19) Bush said he watched the first plane crash into the North tower on TV before entering the classroom."The TV was obviously on." Bush was informed about the second impact while reading 'The Pet Goat' with the children for at least 8 more minutes while America was under "attack".
20) The PATRIOT ACT was written before 9/11 and signed into law on October 26th, 2001. Just 45 days after 9/11
21) Marvin Bush, director of Stratesec (Securacom, 'KuAm') was in charge of security of the WTC, United Airlines and Dulles International Airport. All three were breached on 9/11. ICTS also provided security at 9/11 airports. 'Marvin Bush', 'Barry McDaniel', 'Wirt Walker', 'ICTS', 'WTC power downs'.
22) "Who killed John O'Neil?". Former FBI task force agent investigating Al Qaeda/Bin Laden. Transferred by Kroll Corporation to head the security just before 9/11.John O'Neil died in the Towers. 'Jerome Hauer' 'Jules Kroll'.
23) Insider trading based upon foreknowledge. 'Put Options'. Never identified insiders made millions. 'United and American Airlines' 'Raytheon'. ‘Missing gold’. ‘Black Eagle Trust Fund’.
24) Atleast 7 of the 19 listed hijackers are alive (BBC). No video footage of 19 hijackers or passengers boarding the 4 planes. Pilots of the 4 planes never squawked the hijacking code (7500). 'Alive hijackers','ACARS', 'Pilots for 9/11 Truth'.

WTC 7 (The SmokingGun)
http://rememberbuilding7.org/

Building 7 was a 47-story skyscraper and was part of the World Trade Center complex.Built in 1984, it would have been the tallest high-rise in 33 states in the United States. It collapsed at 5:20 pm on September 11, 2001 in 6.5 Seconds at free fall acceleration. It was not hit by an airplane and suffered minimal damage compared to other buildings much closer to the Twin Towers.

7 FACTS aboutBuilding 7
1) If fire caused Building 7 to collapse, it would be the first ever fire-induced collapse of a steel-frame high-rise.
2) Building 7’s collapse was not mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report.
3) According to a Zogby poll in 2006, 43% of Americans did not know about Building 7.
4) It took the federal government seven years to conduct an investigation and issue a report for Building 7.
5) 1,600+ architects and engineers have signed a petition calling for a new investigation that would include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives for the collapse of Building 7.
6) Numerous witnesses say the possibility of demolishing Building 7 was widely discussed by emergency personnel at the scene and advocated by the building’s owner.
7) Building 7 housed several intelligence and law enforcement agencies, and the NYC Office of Emergency Management’s Emergency Operations Center (23rd floor), more commonly known as “Giuliani’s Bunker”.

Simple Facts ofTemperatures:
~1535ºC(2795ºF) - melting point of iron.
~1510ºC(2750ºF) - melting point of typical structural steel.
~825ºC(1517ºF) - maximum temperature of hydrocarbon fires burning in the atmospherewithout pressurization or pre-heating (premixed fuel and air - blue flame).
Diffuse flames burn far cooler.
Oxygen-starved diffuse flames are cooler yet. The fires in the Towers were diffuse and well below 800ºC.
Source:http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/melting-temperature-metals-d_860.html

JetFuel (JET A-1): "Commercial jet fuel is essentially kerosene..."
~260-315°C(500-599°F) - open air burning temperature of JET A-1.
~980°C(1796°F) - maximum burning temperature of JET A-1.
Sources:http://mepetroleum.com/jet_fuel.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel

"It is believed that almost all of the jet fuel that remained on the impact floors was consumed in the first few minutes of the fire." Source: FEMA (Page 22)
http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_ch2.pdf

Other:
~2500ºC (4532ºF) - maximum temperature of Thermite.
~660ºC (1120ºF) - melting point of Aluminum (turns silver rapidly when cooled).
~233ºC (451ºF) - Ignition temperature of paper (No chemicals added).
~1800-2500°C (3272-4532°F) - Melting point of Concrete.

"Like you're in a foundry."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCdRA09pztM
-----------------------------------
THE HARD FACTS ABOUT 9/11 (VIDEO EDITION)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv6C6Tf4MGE
Updated:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H2wr0khnJA
-------------------------------------------
9/11: A Conspiracy Theory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98
-------------------------------------
WHO DID 9/11? (103Suspects)
http://www.whodidit.org/cocon.html

This is all great.

However all this information is produced from the internet, specialist sites etc.

I realised some time ago that the people who run these sites lie and falsify information for their own agenda and so should be ignored.

 

[Goldstone76]

no lets not, why not be honest that you have nothing? the facts are manipulated to agendas, you have pulled a wall of text but no evidence of a simple case. the fact is there is no evidnce of thermite, only at best anacdotal evidence that some some metal that looks like outcome of thermite reactions was present. no actual thermite (ie assumes that all was consumed) despite the hundred of kilos required to cut through the amount of steel. I'm arguing with 1600 specialists because they represent a 100th of 1% of the total number of specialists, who for some reason remain silent. really? work it out.

Your oh so very very wrong.. So you disagree with all of the specialists who have put their name and credibility to the call for an inquiry! Dream on.. Baaaaa...

 

[Nibble]

This "Baaa" thing you keep doing is rather childish don't you think? To quote the age old phrase "There are many types of sheep". One type being the many sheep that blindly follow any old bobbins they find on the internet.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

Your oh so very very wrong.. So you disagree with all of the specialists who have put their name and credibility to the call for an inquiry! Dream on.. Baaaaa...

So do you disagree with the MANY MORE specialists who claim that what you're saying is a load of old horse shit?

 

[Nibble]

RE: That huge list that's just been posted on here. I wonder how much of that list the CT's actually KNOW. How easily they could incorporate that into a conversation without having to keep referring to the list. I may be wrong but I get the impression that CT's just find these lists on the web, glance over to make sure it supports their theories and then just cut and paste it all without absorbing, questioning and learning what it all is. Just doesn't seem to be much quality control or even basic comprehension of what they are actually looking at. Cut and Paste, cut and paste, cut and paste - There here's my argument.

 

[Goldstone76]

So do you disagree with the MANY MORE specialists who claim that what you're saying is a load of old horse shit?

Sheeple.. People unable to think for themselves. Followers. Lemmings. Those with no cognitive ablilities of their own.

 

[Nibble]

Sheeple.. People unable to think for themselves. Followers. Lemmings. Those with no cognitive ablilities of their own.

Ironic.

Edited because I cannot be arsed.

 

[sten_super]

Sheeple.. People unable to think for themselves. Followers. Lemmings. Those with no cognitive ablilities of their own.

Presumably you do actually realise how difficult this makes it to debate anything with you? If everything that the experts that support your perspective say is 'true' and everything that the experts on the other side say is because they are 'sheeple', how is anyone ever going to persuade you that anything other than what you believe it true?

 

[Goldstone76]

Ironic.

Edited because I cannot be arsed.

Its very simple. . Ex CIA states 911 was known about before it happened and Bush used it to go to war.. join all the dots of everything that doesnt add up. There are huge holes in the official government statements post 911. Nothing else to say really is there? Your mind is either open or closed.

 

[beorhthelm]

Your oh so very very wrong..

yet you cannot show any proof

and its not just me that disagrees with the AE911 specialists, theres also the other 99.999% of specialist that havent put their name and credibility on the line.

 

[pastafarian]

Do NOT believe the lies of Goldstone76
He is a government lemming.

there is no point he telling you about Jet Fuel Burning temperatures,because there were no planes,they were holograms



and he lies when he tells you there was thermite involved,
the towers were brought down by nuclear explosions



do your own research blah blah blah!