Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

[The Truth]

The video proves that only the burning part of the building collapsed and not the whole structure. I shall ask you again.. show me a skyscraper that FREEFALLS from top to ground floor without apparent resistance. You cant because there have only been none other than those that fell on 911. May be its now time to move onto the Pentagon incident.. yes the one with the tiny hole and no airliner debris..

"The official dissembling and excuse-making about the true causes and prior mistakes that gave rise to and allowed the terrorist attacks to happen, almost immediately ushered in the Bush-Cheney Administration’s egregious and lawless, post 9-11 “war on terror” agenda which bore no connection to the original causes and no connection to the goal of reducing terrorism and making the world safer.” Coleen Rowley (FBI 1984-2004)

“Now is the time for our elected officials to be held accountable. Now is the time for the media to be held accountable. Why aren’t the hard questions being asked. We know there were numerous warnings of the events to come on September 11. Vladimir Putin, President of Russia, delivered one such warning. Those engaged in unusual stock trades immediately before September 11 knew enough to make millions of dollars from United and American airlines, certain insurance and brokerage firms’ stocks. What did this Administration know, and when did it know it about the events of September 11? Who else knew and why did they not warn the innocent people of New York who were needlessly murdered?” Cynthia McKinney USA Congress

“It seems that the so-called “war on terrorism” is being used largely as bogus cover for achieving wider US strategic geopolitical objectives. Indeed Tony Blair himself hinted at this when he said to the Commons liaison committee: “To be truthful about it, there was no way we could have got the public consent to have suddenly launched a campaign on Afghanistan but for what happened on September 11.” Micheal Meacher Labour MP

Did you know that the CIA gave orders for the issue of visas to the supposed terrorists? Mike Springmann. Springmann went public (after internal efforts failed) to expose the State Dept/CIA conduiting terrorists into the USA. Do you feel this is acceptable behaviour for a country 'at war'?

He said "In Saudi Arabia I was repeatedly ordered by high level State Dept officials to issue visas to unqualified applicants. These were, essentially, people who had no ties either to Saudi Arabia or to their own country. I complained bitterly at the time there. I returned to the US, I complained to the State Dept here, to the General Accounting Office, to the Bureau of Diplomatic Security and to the Inspector General's office. I was met with silence."

Michael J. Springmann was the former head of the American visa bureau in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, in the Reagan and former Bush administrations, from September 1987 through March 1989. While stationed in Saudi Arabia, Springmann was "ordered by high level State Dept officials to issue visas to unqualified applicants". Springmann claims that these applicants were in fact, terrorist recruits of Osama Bin Laden, who were being sent to the United States in order to obtain training from the C.I.A. Springmann has issued complaints to "higher authorities at several agencies", but they've been unanswered. The State Department has however noted that the consular officer had final authority in issuing the visas, not Springmann. Following Springmann's complaints, he was fired by the State Department.

Now after reading this your asking so what? And what has this to do with 911.. The point is that the USA government has a long history of using terrorists when its suited their objectives which at this period was the Russian involvment in Afghanistan. Its fact that the CIA recruited Bin Laden and created the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Do you really think the CIA had no knowledge of what was to happen on 911? They did know and I feel that a USA secret cell enabled and organised the whole thing.

Over to you..

The CIA recruited Bin Laden and created the Taliban and Al Qaeda, but yet according to mainstream media, the CIA knew nothing about the attacks on 9/11! How the hell do people believe the news!?

 

[symyjym]

Come on SymyJym, answer the question. We've been waiting!

1) You are wasting your time trying to change the world using NSC as your podium and your efforts behind your keyboard are futile.

2) My advice to you is to set up a direct debit to Richard Gage and put your money where your mouth is and actually help his investigation.

3) I have said all I need to say on this debate which is now documented on this thread. I suggest you actually read it.

4) The truth, you can’t handle the truth.

5) Nibble is 100% correct you are a (unt

 

[The Truth]

Not hatred, scepticism of diagnosis from doctors and parents, nowt to do with the diagnosed and you'll note I made a point of withdrawing from that debate until I was better informed, something it would benefit you to do . I don't bother debating with you because you boy, are a moron.

What's the matter with you nibble? you seem awfully depressed. Why do you feel the need to swear at people on NSC like you have towards me and goldstone 1976? any chance of using a more child friendly approach with your insults? The 'see you next tuesday' word isn't the most original you've used, moron is a bit american and flower pot is slightly out of date now. Try to be more original and humorous Niggle. Sadly, you're only slating us so you can feel part of a group. Insecurities aren't a laughing matter. I hope you are okay?

 

[Goldstone76]

The CIA recruited Bin Laden and created the Taliban and Al Qaeda, but yet according to mainstream media, the CIA knew nothing about the attacks on 9/11! How the hell do people believe the news!?

The CIA absolutely knew. If you would like to take the time heres an interview which should dispel the myth that the CIA knew nothing.. Mainstream media produces garbage, lies and misinformation..

 

[The Truth]

1) You are wasting your time trying to change the world using NSC as your podium and your efforts behind your keyboard are futile.

2) My advice to you is to set up a direct debit to Richard Gage and put your money where your mouth is and actually help his investigation.

3) I have said all I need to say on this debate which is now documented on this thread. I suggest you actually read it.

4) The truth, you can’t handle the truth.

5) Nibble is 100% correct you are a (unt

Jesus Joseph and mary! Any chance of just answering Goldstone 1976 question? What's nibbles opinion about me got to do with Goldstone 1976 question?
Anyways, it's true,Nibble is 100% correct, when push comes to shove, swear words are all you have. Looking forward to the wooly jumper!

 

[Goldstone76]

Debate? You mean your ill informed ramblings and cut and pasting frenzy. Debate! Ha, you don't know how flowerpot, you simply follow whatever The Truth and kooks on Youtube vomit out. Bahhhh. Debate? Do me a favour.

Im rather informed actually. Ive been to Afghanistan a month after the fall of the Taliban. Ive been to the Twin Towers and spoke to several victims family members plus a fireman who went into Building 7. Ironically many, many families and emergency service members dont believe the official story and yet you spout nothing but drivel based nothingness based on nothingness. You have been asked questions and as soon as you have no answer you go back to some kind of playground mindset.. You have a closed mind thats all. Open your eyes Nibble.. the world really isnt what it wants you to believe.

 

[Goldstone76]

A little something for all you sheep..

 

[Nibble]

'ave it ya (unts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFNO2sSW-mU

 

[Goldstone76]

'ave it ya (unts

Excellent choice.. made my day. Thanks X

 

[The Truth]

'ave it ya (unts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFNO2sSW-mU

I guess that's check mate? Top selection Niggle. I guess we are (unts then?

 

[symyjym]

The CIA absolutely knew. If you would like to take the time heres an interview which should dispel the myth that the CIA knew nothing.. Mainstream media produces garbage, lies and misinformation..

I didn’t hear him say anything about remote control planes, video special effects, thermite, controlled demolition, Silverstien’s insurance policy, an airline disappearing at the Pentagon, passengers swapping planes, cruise missiles, holograms or any other farfetched embellishment of the 911 conspiracy theory.

He only said in this video what we already know, and it could have been avoided if America wasn’t so incompetent. Michael Moore underlined everything in Fahrenheit 9/11.

Trouble is with you lot is that you also buy into the Loose Change and Richard Gage’s spin on it.

Some of us can differentiate from Fahrenheit 9/11 and Loose Change and that is where you need to get your head out of your arses.

You will never understand that the attention seeking 911 Conspiracy Theory covers up the truth and only serves as an own goal. The real truth is far more interesting than the bullshit you promote.

No doubt you will not read this.

 

[hitony]

Let me just inform you all, while the swear filter might be a pain to some, it is there for a very good reason, and as such doing things like ( instead of C will only end you in getting infractions, the other thing that is important here is the fact you can't debate your (in my opinion) boring subject without resorting to name calling, this sort of stuff belongs in playgrounds!!

Either go back and edit your posts or expect an infraction.

 

[Goldstone76]

Let me just inform you all, while the swear filter might be a pain to some, it is there for a very good reason, and as such doing things like ( instead of C will only end you in getting infractions, the other thing that is important here is the fact you can't debate your (in my opinion) boring subject without resorting to name calling, this sort of stuff belongs in playgrounds!!

Either go back and edit your posts or expect an infraction.

A voice of reason.. not much of that to be found here.Abandon hope all ye who enter here..

 

[Goldstone76]

I didn’t hear him say anything about remote control planes, video special effects, thermite, controlled demolition, Silverstien’s insurance policy, an airline disappearing at the Pentagon, passengers swapping planes, cruise missiles, holograms or any other farfetched embellishment of the 911 conspiracy theory.

He only said in this video what we already know, and it could have been avoided if America wasn’t so incompetent. Michael Moore underlined everything in Fahrenheit 9/11.

Trouble is with you lot is that you also buy into the Loose Change and Richard Gage’s spin on it.

Some of us can differentiate from Fahrenheit 9/11 and Loose Change and that is where you need to get your head out of your arses.

You will never understand that the attention seeking 911 Conspiracy Theory covers up the truth and only serves as an own goal. The real truth is far more interesting than the bullshit you promote.

No doubt you will not read this.

At last.. so you agree that the CIA knew but did nothing.. and so lets ask a question and move forward.. Why if the upper echelons of the CIA knew what was going to happen didnt they do anything? Bush would have known about this and there is no way the CIA would not have run this by him. Bush on his first day of office demanded that a way be created to invade Iraq.. And so 9/11 was his reason. Your thoughts?..

 

[Hillian1]

At last.. so you agree that the CIA knew but did nothing.. and so lets ask a question and move forward.. Why if the upper echelons of the CIA knew what was going to happen didnt they do anything? Bush would have known about this and there is no way the CIA would not have run this by him. Bush on his first day of office demanded that a way be created to invade Iraq.. And so 9/11 was his reason. Your thoughts?..

Where did he say he agreed that the CIA knew and did nothing.

 

[hitony]

A voice of reason.. not much of that to be found here.Abandon hope all ye who enter here..

Not really, just one of the very few and simple rules we have here on NSC...

 

[The Truth]

Not really, just one of the very few and simple rules we have here on NSC...

To be fair though Hitony, there does seem to be one rule for one and not the other. Usually when a conspiracy is discussed all your rules go out the window. It's not like you haven't posted on this thread?

PS thanks for pointing out the swearing, it was about time. I hope you can see, i've not sworn at anyone. (just incase you do your usual infraction on me)
Love you loads. The truth x

 

[symyjym]

Where did he say he agreed that the CIA knew and did nothing.

Thanks for noticing what I really said, this is a fantastic example of how they twist the truth.

 

[hitony]

Sorry I meant to quote post number 437 above.

To my appalling memory, I think this is the 4th post I have made on this thread, the first asking if you support BHAFC (to which I don't think you answered, if you did I havnt seen it) and the other 3 on this page.

There is most certainly not one rule for one and one for another, in fact I have been extremely decent in giving you all a chance to go back and edit your posts, something I doubt others will have done.

Now I am not being drawn into an argument / debate over this, as far as I am concerned this is my last post on this thread regarding the point.

Thank You.

 

[symyjym]

Sorry I meant to quote post number 437 above.

To my appalling memory, I think this is the 4th post I have made on this thread, the first asking if you support BHAFC (to which I don't think you answered, if you did I havnt seen it) and the other 3 on this page.

There is most certainly not one rule for one and one for another, in fact I have been extremely decent in giving you all a chance to go back and edit your posts, something I doubt others will have done.

Now I am not being drawn into an argument / debate over this, as far as I am concerned this is my last post on this thread regarding the point.

Thank You.

My editing option has timed out, but point taken.