Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

[The Truth]

Hitler didn't come to power legally, no-one was fooled that he did. There was just a huge reluctance to confront him and engage in a war. You have really got to start getting your facts right if you are going to engage in this kind of debate.

I'm only saying what Martin Luthur King once said, guess he didn't do his research!

 

[The Truth]

This is Rudolph Hess, appointed Hitler's deputy in 1933. Not a coward he actually faced trial and was imprisoned for life for war crimes.

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And this is the Bush family. Who haven't been imprisoned yet.

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This answers both points....

So you believe the Bush family should be locked up?

 

[Guinness Boy]

So you believe the Bush family should be locked up?

Nope. Where did I say that?

 

[The Truth]

Nope. Where did I say that?

below the 1st picture.

 

[Nibble]

I'm only saying what Martin Luthur King once said, guess he didn't do his research![/QUOTE

I have no idea what research he did. I also don't know in what context MLK was speaking when he made that quote. It's a common narrative that Hitler did everything he did legally, technically it could be argued that is true. But only under laws he himself passed illegally to facilitate his illegal activity. He made the extermination of Jews legal, could one argue that extermination was carried out under any credible, recognisable, lawful decree? You see, there's always more to the story.

I understand what point you are trying to make but I have to say I do not think you are in any way shape or form up to debating with the likes of me. Your historical knowledge is woefully inadequate, your rhetoric is sensationalist in the extreme, your motives are questionable, your so called beliefs are without base in either moral or fact-based analysis and you have singularly failed at every juncture to provide credible evidence or answers to the points raised to you. It's frankly, laughable.

 

[Mowgli37]

Are you lot STILL at it?!!

 

[The Truth]

I'm only saying what Martin Luthur King once said, guess he didn't do his research![/QUOTE

I have no idea what research he did. I also don't know in what context MLK was speaking when he made that quote. It's a common narrative that Hitler did everything he did legally, technically it could be argued that is true. But only under laws he himself passed illegally to facilitate his illegal activity. He made the extermination of Jews legal, could one argue that extermination was carried out under any credible, recognisable, lawful decree? You see, there's always more to the story.

I'm sure Hitler did all this, it's what Obama's been doing since he's been in charge!

Oh and did you know, Hitler had a real dislike towards the conspiracy theorists. He once tried to blame a terrorist attack on them which he had orchestrated.

 

[Guinness Boy]

below the 1st picture.

See this is your problem. What I wrote was a fact (far more factual than the series of links from one website you trumpeted). It was

"And this is the Bush family. Who haven't been imprisoned yet." If I'd wanted to say I think the Bush's should be locked up I would have said "I think the Bush's should be locked up."

You read WAY too much in to things. You have absolutely no power of logical thought. You see meaning where there is none.

I'm out of this binfest. Feel free to have the last word. Try and use it to explain why you haven't refuted my six point rebuttal, why I found a BBC article about Palestinians being victims within two minutes of you claiming there weren't any, why anyone would openly choose to go to war in Afghanistan and how the News of the World couldn't make a story about Savile being a paedo stick. To date you've answered none of this. You've just asked different questions.

 

[The Truth]

See this is your problem. What I wrote was a fact (far more factual than the series of links from one website you trumpeted). It was

"And this is the Bush family. Who haven't been imprisoned yet." If I'd wanted to say I think the Bush's should be locked up I would have said "I think the Bush's should be locked up."

You read WAY too much in to things. You have absolutely no power of logical thought. You see meaning where there is none.

Oh sorry, the 'yet' bit of the sentence made me think you were actually seeing it as a possibility? Guess I looked way too deep into that!

 

[Nibble]

I'm sure Hitler did all this, it's what Obama's been doing since he's been in charge!

Oh and did you know, Hitler had a real dislike towards the conspiracy theorists. He once tried to blame a terrorist attack on them which he had orchestrated.

I understand what point you are trying to make but I have to say I do not think you are in any way shape or form up to debating with the likes of me. Your historical knowledge is woefully inadequate, your rhetoric is sensationalist in the extreme, your motives are questionable, your so called beliefs are without base in either moral or fact-based analysis and you have singularly failed at every juncture to provide credible evidence or answers to the points raised to you. It's frankly, laughable.

 

[The Truth]

I understand what point you are trying to make but I have to say I do not think you are in any way shape or form up to debating with the likes of me.

Fair play, if there's anyone who can say that, it's you Nibble

 

[One Love]

Is all of this bullshit too?

Fact: FEMA was in New York on September 10.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/fematape.html

Fact: Odigo workers received warning of the 9/11 attacks.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/odigo_9-11_warning.html

Fact: There were bombs in the WTC buildings.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/911_firefighters.html

Fact: The Office of Emergency Management issued a collapse warning to a select few people.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/oem_wtc.html

Fact: Giuliani was warned of the collapses.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_giuliani.html

Fact: Five Israelis danced as the twin towers burned.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

Fact: 600ºC+ fires did not exist in either of the twin towers.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_fire.htm

Fact: The core of WTC 1 failed below the third floor.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/wtc1_core_collapse.html

Fact: The BBC stated there were no casualties when WTC 7 collapsed. This is flat out wrong. Master Special Officer Craig Miller of the Secret Service died when the building came down.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/silverstein_pullit.html

Fact: An explosion was reported on Flight 93.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/shootdown.html

Fact: The Secret Service were not concerned about the safety of the President on 9/11.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/9-11secretservice.html

Fact: The President was in no hurry to get out of Booker Elementary School.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/schoolvideo.html

Fact: Eight minutes before the Pentagon crash Flight 77 was tracked by radar as it closed to within 30 miles of Washington, therefore the whereabouts of the plane was known, therefore it could have been intercepted.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/911stand.html

Fact: Dick Cheney left Washington undefended on 9/11.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/usaf_911.html

The BBC briefly mentioned that Flight 77 hit a reinforced section of the Pentagon. What they failed to mention is that reinforcements on this section were completed on 9/11/2001 meaning this section of the building was nearly deserted when the plane hit.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_renovations.html

Fact: White House staff started taking Cipro on 9/11.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/frameup.html

Yes

 

[The Truth]

Yes

Evidence?

 

[One Love]

Evidence?

I have had a quick look at the site, paying particular attention to the subjects that I know quite a lot about to attempt to make a fair judgement without spending hours wasting my time.

My conclusion was that it was such a load of crap that you should be embarrassed that you have linked to it.

 

[symyjym]

Richard Gage demonstrates a dramatic demonstration of how wtc towers could not fail using 3 cardboard boxes!

I always found this one well worth a watch though.

The Truth; do you accept this is legitimate evidence on his version of how the towers collapsed? A cheap production but maybe it has something to do with FFP.

I feel he should have been a little bit more scientific in his approach like making the towers out of matchsticks or something.

 

[BadFish]

Is all of this bullshit too?

Fact: FEMA was in New York on September 10.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/fematape.html

Fact: Odigo workers received warning of the 9/11 attacks.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/odigo_9-11_warning.html

Fact: There were bombs in the WTC buildings.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/911_firefighters.html

Fact: The Office of Emergency Management issued a collapse warning to a select few people.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/oem_wtc.html

Fact: Giuliani was warned of the collapses.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_giuliani.html

Fact: Five Israelis danced as the twin towers burned.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

Fact: 600ºC+ fires did not exist in either of the twin towers.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_fire.htm

Fact: The core of WTC 1 failed below the third floor.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/wtc1_core_collapse.html

Fact: The BBC stated there were no casualties when WTC 7 collapsed. This is flat out wrong. Master Special Officer Craig Miller of the Secret Service died when the building came down.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/silverstein_pullit.html

Fact: An explosion was reported on Flight 93.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/shootdown.html

Fact: The Secret Service were not concerned about the safety of the President on 9/11.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/9-11secretservice.html

Fact: The President was in no hurry to get out of Booker Elementary School.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/schoolvideo.html

Fact: Eight minutes before the Pentagon crash Flight 77 was tracked by radar as it closed to within 30 miles of Washington, therefore the whereabouts of the plane was known, therefore it could have been intercepted.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/911stand.html

Fact: Dick Cheney left Washington undefended on 9/11.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/usaf_911.html

The BBC briefly mentioned that Flight 77 hit a reinforced section of the Pentagon. What they failed to mention is that reinforcements on this section were completed on 9/11/2001 meaning this section of the building was nearly deserted when the plane hit.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_renovations.html

Fact: White House staff started taking Cipro on 9/11.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/frameup.html

They have 'Fact:' written next to them so they are definitely true.

 

[BadFish]

You presume to tell me what I believe? Goodbye.

The irony here is that he refuses to tell anyone what he actually thinks (if indeed he does).

 

[One Love]

They have 'Fact:' written next to them so they are definitely true.

Fact = What some guy on the internet, who exploits peoples' mental illness, says.

 

[BadFish]

See this is your problem. What I wrote was a fact (far more factual than the series of links from one website you trumpeted). It was

"And this is the Bush family. Who haven't been imprisoned yet." If I'd wanted to say I think the Bush's should be locked up I would have said "I think the Bush's should be locked up."

You read WAY too much in to things. You have absolutely no power of logical thought. You see meaning where there is none.

I'm out of this binfest. Feel free to have the last word. Try and use it to explain why you haven't refuted my six point rebuttal, why I found a BBC article about Palestinians being victims within two minutes of you claiming there weren't any, why anyone would openly choose to go to war in Afghanistan and how the News of the World couldn't make a story about Savile being a paedo stick. To date you've answered none of this. You've just asked different questions.

My, you will be a busy boy The Truth. When you have done that little lot perhaps you could answer Pasta's question from a couple of pages ago?

It is interesting that with your username and apparent self belief in knowing all the answers you are so unwilling (or unable) to answer direct questions. Perhaps if you did deign to answer our questions we could drag our selves out of our sheepy darkness and into the conspiracy light.

 

[beorhthelm]

I'm sure Hitler did all this, it's what Obama's been doing since he's been in charge!

Oh and did you know, Hitler had a real dislike towards the conspiracy theorists. He once tried to blame a terrorist attack on them which he had orchestrated.

your dribbling into incoherence here. Obama exterminated Jews? i thought he was working for the jewish bankers? and what does Obama have to do with 9/11, afganistan, iraq or anything else before 2009? and you'll find Hitle blamed communists not conspiracy theorists.


what i really have trouble with, and i hope you or hybrid or goldstone 1976 can help, is why 9/11 needs to happen. you see the problem is they invade Afganistan on that premise for no stategic advantage. the place was a basket case before and its slightly less oppressive basket case now (though that is a win for the women, children non-taliban men of course). China and europeans have walked away with most the mineral rights, and any gas/oil pipes are no more secure before you claim its those. the US then invade Iraq, only to do so they dont use 9/11 but the WMD gambit.

so why not frame someone based in Iraq for the 9/11 event? doesnt it strike you, at the very least, as an odd narrative?