Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

[The Truth]

My, you will be a busy boy The Truth. When you have done that little lot perhaps you could answer Pasta's question from a couple of pages ago?

It is interesting that with your username and apparent self belief in knowing all the answers you are so unwilling (or unable) to answer direct questions. Perhaps if you did deign to answer our questions we could drag our selves out of our sheepy darkness and into the conspiracy light.

But it's your advice everyone needs Badfish, not mine? I'm the insane one remember? Why do you all seem very desperate for my posts? You all look like a pack of wolfs on a football forum! Where's your individualism Badfish? It's you who mocks the false facts! You obviously know the answers to everything including government lies. Why don't you go ahead and teach me more stuff on how war is the answer for peace or explain the morality in 10% of the world having more money than the 90% combined? Explain how this system works then? Could you explain why we need corporations getting political power? I know 9/11 is a favourite subject of yours but aren't you slightly bored yet of having this same old debate? You don't know what happened, I don't, we both weren't there. Your word against mine. Deal with it.
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[One Love]

I genuinely think this thread does bring up some pretty sad issues actually.

"The Truth" does not deny believing that the long list of events given earlier were all planned by some government or whatever. So we have to assume that his unwillingness to answer the question is that he feels this is the case and he was trying to avoid ridicule.

That list went back to Pearl Harbour. So are we to assume that he believes every "big event" in the last 70 years or so has been planned and not just a consequence of human interaction or accident?

What a boring world we would all live in without these secret covert acts. Nothing would happen.

 

[jakarta]

Bozza must have infinitely more patience than me; if I was in his position I would have binned this utterly tedious thread a long way back and issued some bans as well (yes I know I am guilty as well - I shouldn't read them and encourage the tin foil hatters)

 

[BadFish]

But it's your advice everyone needs Badfish, not mine?

No it isn't, My advice is no better or worse than anyone else's (It is not me that arrogantly calls myself The T[he Truth

I'm the insane one remember?

Don't really understand the relevance of the the questions but okay, I will remember that.

Why do you all seem very desperate for my posts? You all look like a pack of wolfs on a football forum!

We are not desperate for your post (I was happier when you weren't here). What we would like you to do is use your many posts to actually say something, answer the questions and rebuttals put to you and tell us what YOU think.

Where's your individualism Badfish?

I am no more individual than anyone else and less than those I am close to.

It's you who mocks the false facts! You obviously know the answers to everything including government lies.

Why don't you go ahead and teach me more stuff on

I cannot teach you stuff about these things but am happy to share my opinion with you

how war is the answer for peace

I don't believe it is

or explain the morality in 10% of the world having more money than the 90% combined?

This is wrong and is one of the most important problems in the world at the moment.

Explain how this system works then?

Not really sure which system you mean.

Could you explain why we need corporations getting political power?

the power and influence of corporation is another thing that worries me in today's world, They have far too much influence in politics.

I know 9/11 is a favourite subject of yours but aren't you slightly bored yet of having this same old debate?

Yes I am but I am intreigued to know if you are actually going to answer the questions put to you or if you are going to wriggle and squirm your way out of them some more.

You don't know what happened, I don't, we both weren't there. Your word against mine. Deal with it.

I don't really know what your word is on the subject, all i really know is what you hint at, allude to and post YouTube videos about. To really understand what your word is you would have to answer the questions being posed to you and risk offering up an opinion.

Now I have answered the questions put to me by you perhaps you could do the same. I wonder if you would mind adding your answers to the above questions to you every growing list of questions to dodge as I would be interested to know your opinions too.

 

[Mental Lental]

Is all of this bullshit too?

Fact: FEMA was in New York on September 10.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/fematape.html

Fact: Odigo workers received warning of the 9/11 attacks.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/odigo_9-11_warning.html

Fact: There were bombs in the WTC buildings.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/911_firefighters.html

Fact: The Office of Emergency Management issued a collapse warning to a select few people.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/oem_wtc.html

Fact: Giuliani was warned of the collapses.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_giuliani.html

Fact: Five Israelis danced as the twin towers burned.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

Fact: 600ºC+ fires did not exist in either of the twin towers.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_fire.htm

Fact: The core of WTC 1 failed below the third floor.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/wtc1_core_collapse.html

Fact: The BBC stated there were no casualties when WTC 7 collapsed. This is flat out wrong. Master Special Officer Craig Miller of the Secret Service died when the building came down.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/silverstein_pullit.html

Fact: An explosion was reported on Flight 93.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/shootdown.html

Fact: The Secret Service were not concerned about the safety of the President on 9/11.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/9-11secretservice.html

Fact: The President was in no hurry to get out of Booker Elementary School.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/schoolvideo.html

Fact: Eight minutes before the Pentagon crash Flight 77 was tracked by radar as it closed to within 30 miles of Washington, therefore the whereabouts of the plane was known, therefore it could have been intercepted.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/911stand.html

Fact: Dick Cheney left Washington undefended on 9/11.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/usaf_911.html

The BBC briefly mentioned that Flight 77 hit a reinforced section of the Pentagon. What they failed to mention is that reinforcements on this section were completed on 9/11/2001 meaning this section of the building was nearly deserted when the plane hit.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_renovations.html

Fact: White House staff started taking Cipro on 9/11.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/frameup.html

 

[pastafarian]

Oh and did you know, Hitler had a real dislike towards the conspiracy theorists. He once tried to blame a terrorist attack on them which he had orchestrated.

there is no evidence Hitler orchestrated the terrorist attack you are talking about,im not sure where you are getting your information that this is fact concerning this.You are lying.No doubt it fits your agenda and view but it is still a lie.

 

[pastafarian]

on a side note i do wonder why certain people feel the need to edit posts. @Falmer used to do this especially when he was being made to look a knob..........coincidence?

 

[Nibble]

Haha, one of my favourite things he came up with.

 

[hybrid_x]

Some on here are sadly in a tv induced hypnogenic sleep. Any information from any other source is ridiculed.






One gets their beliefs from the TV but does not even research who owns the channels and networks.

 

[Nibble]

Some on here are sadly in a tv induced hypnogenic sleep. Any information from any other source is ridiculed.

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One gets their beliefs from the TV but does not even research who owns the channels and networks.

You are a living cliché. I don't own a telly, probably watch about 6 hours of broadcast a week. Ooops, another of your teenaged ideas down the crapper. You really just do it to yourself.

 

[The Truth]

You are a living cliché. I don't own a telly, probably watch about 6 hours of broadcast a week. Ooops, another of your teenaged ideas down the crapper. You really just do it to yourself.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

there is no evidence Hitler orchestrated the terrorist attack you are talking about,im not sure where you are getting your information that this is fact concerning this.You are lying.No doubt it fits your agenda and view but it is still a lie.

Quite. The historians now broadly agree that it probably was the Dutch communist accused of burning down the Reichstag that did, in fact, do it.

The fact that Hitler then used that to justify his actions is resonant of what Dubya did to justify his after 9/11. What we are seeing in both instances is an act of terrorism resulting in a huge overreaction by right wingers seeking "vengeance" and trouble for the whole world as a consequence.

Why does it have to be any more disgusting and spiteful than that?

 

[beorhthelm]

a great illustration of conspiracy theorists ability to make a conspiracy out of everything and feed them all together into one (incoherent) whole:

Google has some "secret" operation going on involving shipping containers, with actions seen around San Francisco and now a few other locations. secret in that they have'nt publicly discussed it. the regular IT media have latched on to the explaination that they are rolling out mobile, modular datacenters that can be shipped round the world to locations.

the conspricists have it that Google are preparing for an EMP attack and taking measures to protect the internet through storing servers in these containers as faraday cages. theres debate over whether its from nuclear attack, solar flare or nibiru, but the one thing is certain, Google know something is about to happen! they are prepping, so should you!

same base information, two completely different perspectives.

 

[The Truth]

a great illustration of conspiracy theorists ability to make a conspiracy out of everything and feed them all together into one (incoherent) whole:

Google has some "secret" operation going on involving shipping containers, with actions seen around San Francisco and now a few other locations. secret in that they have'nt publicly discussed it. the regular IT media have latched on to the explaination that they are rolling out mobile, modular datacenters that can be shipped round the world to locations.

the conspricists have it that Google are preparing for an EMP attack and taking measures to protect the internet through storing servers in these containers as faraday cages. theres debate over whether its from nuclear attack, solar flare or nibiru, but the one thing is certain, Google know something is about to happen! they are prepping, so should you!

same base information, two completely different perspectives.

Where do you get this info from? Any chance you could post some links?

 

[beorhthelm]

Where do you get this info from? Any chance you could post some links?

do your own research

 

[The Truth]

do your own research

I have and i can't find anything on it? Are you just making things up in aid of making yourself feel sure?

 

[beorhthelm]

I have and i can't find anything on it? Are you just making things up in aid of making yourself feel sure?

yes, thats it. i just made a conspiracy so i could asure myself that something else i made up is in fact perfectly fine.

 

[symyjym]

I have and i can't find anything on it? Are you just making things up in aid of making yourself feel sure?

You are not very good at research http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2013/10/28/the-barge-mystery-floating-data-centers/

search term: google shipping data

 

[The Truth]

yes, thats it. i just made a conspiracy so i could asure myself that something else i made up is in fact perfectly fine.

Pathetic. So now you're making up conspiracies in order to try and mock the theories which are widely known? Well done Beorthelm, making up bullshit from the top of your head definitely gives you no right to mock a conspiracy theory. Keep up with the research!

 

[Nibble]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...-theorists-deny-9-11-anniversary-201109094287