Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

[Nibble]

I've said it before on here. Human beings have a natural inclination towards order, imaginary or demonstrable. Conspiracy Theorists are confused people trying to find order in a confusing world. It doesn't matter if that order is the truth as long as it sets up a timeline of cause and effect to calm them. It's a form of psychological immaturity. They cannot accept that some things happen and there is no order to them. Luckily for these people as they mature the need to have everything explained away lessens.

 

[The Truth]

The bbc couldnt be any more left/liberal if it tried you buffoon !

Are you joking!? So with everything we've been finding out on what lies inside the bbc. You still think it's liberal? Madness!

 

[Guinness Boy]

Are you joking!? So with everything we've been finding out on what lies inside the bbc. You still think it's liberal? Madness!

I presume that you mean they turned a blind eye to some appalling behaviour by some of their presenters in the past? But then so did The News of the World who spent 30 years doing secret druggie / peado / corruption / dodgy vicar / affair stories. They would have made a fortune out of exposing Savile and yet ignored something that was scuttlebutt among girls in the areas he operated in. And if you are saying News International and the BBC are in cahoots I'm actually going to laugh you off the board.

The fact that hybrid thinks the beeb aren't to be trusted because they are conspiring with governments and that some of our more right leaning posters think they are too liberal lefty and the fact they've annoyed people in power from Thatcher to Alistair Campbell indicates they are what they say - neutral.

 

[Nibble]

The Truth et al will never answer your questions. They can't. They come on here and talk rubbish because no-one in the real world would listen to them. They will never make sense or answer the questions put to them. I am ashamed I got involved again. It is quite fun tearing their nonsense to shreds though

 

[The Truth]

I presume that you mean they turned a blind eye to some appalling behaviour by some of their presenters in the past? But then so did The News of the World who spent 30 years doing secret druggie / peado / corruption / dodgy vicar / affair stories. They would have made a fortune out of exposing Savile and yet ignored something that was scuttlebutt among girls in the areas he operated in. And if you are saying News International and the BBC are in cahoots I'm actually going to laugh you off the board.

The fact that hybrid thinks the beeb aren't to be trusted because they are conspiring with governments and that some of our more right leaning posters think they are too liberal lefty and the fact they've annoyed people in power from Thatcher to Alistair Campbell indicates they are what they say - neutral.

What a load of crap, Watch the bcc's coverage of Israel. Propaganda at it's worst. When will the bbc ever portray the Palestinians as something other than terrorists? The bbc is weapon of mass destruction (Faithless)

 

[The Truth]

The Truth et al will never answer your questions. They can't. They come on here and talk rubbish because no-one in the real world would listen to them. They will never make sense or answer the questions put to them. I am ashamed I got involved again. It is quite fun tearing their nonsense to shreds though

You say I talk crap? What was your angle on Autism again?

 

[Guinness Boy]

What a load of crap, Watch the bcc's coverage of Israel. Propaganda at it's worst. When will the bbc ever portray the Palestinians as something other than terrorists? The bbc is weapon of mass destruction (Faithless)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23839675

That took two minutes on Google by the way. I'm with Nibs. This is like shooting fish in a barrel. Laters.

 

[symyjym]

What a load of crap, Watch the bcc's coverage of Israel. Propaganda at it's worst. When will the bbc ever portray the Palestinians as something other than terrorists? The bbc is weapon of mass destruction (Faithless)

This is actually my point.

The fanciful and farfetched conspiracy theories undermine the truth. Now for me, the 911 conspiracy theory, as I have explained previously, apart from inconsistencies in the story, the Americans could not have pulled it off even if the wanted to. My example of this was even when they got Bin Laden, it was a small opperation, they managed to crash one of the two helicopters.

The trouble is with the 911 conspiracy is that it is highly mentioned in the same breath as real things that are going on in the world and therefore undermines the truth and misrepresents the important message.

I would have far more respect for the CT’s if they could dismiss and differentiated fact from fiction.

So if a CT spoke to me about global corruption, what really drives countries and the history, but they dismissed the elaborate 911 CT red herring, I would have more time to listen to what they are saying.

The fact that 911 is used as part of CT mantra, the real message gets lost so it ends up doing more harm than good in spreading a message.

Can you budge a little bit and agree the 911 CT is an over embellished one and is probably not a good example to use, when spreading a message, and shouldn’t be used as fact?

If anything it covers up the truth with its own propaganda machine, and plays into the hands of the global governments, and has an opposite affect to what it is actually trying to achieve. So anyone who portrays the 911 CT as the truth, I am less likely to believe anything else they say.

I hope you understand the point I am trying to make?

 

[The Truth]

Is all of this bullshit too?

Fact: FEMA was in New York on September 10.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/fematape.html

Fact: Odigo workers received warning of the 9/11 attacks.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/odigo_9-11_warning.html

Fact: There were bombs in the WTC buildings.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/911_firefighters.html

Fact: The Office of Emergency Management issued a collapse warning to a select few people.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/oem_wtc.html

Fact: Giuliani was warned of the collapses.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_giuliani.html

Fact: Five Israelis danced as the twin towers burned.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

Fact: 600ºC+ fires did not exist in either of the twin towers.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_fire.htm

Fact: The core of WTC 1 failed below the third floor.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/wtc1_core_collapse.html

Fact: The BBC stated there were no casualties when WTC 7 collapsed. This is flat out wrong. Master Special Officer Craig Miller of the Secret Service died when the building came down.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/silverstein_pullit.html

Fact: An explosion was reported on Flight 93.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/shootdown.html

Fact: The Secret Service were not concerned about the safety of the President on 9/11.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/9-11secretservice.html

Fact: The President was in no hurry to get out of Booker Elementary School.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/schoolvideo.html

Fact: Eight minutes before the Pentagon crash Flight 77 was tracked by radar as it closed to within 30 miles of Washington, therefore the whereabouts of the plane was known, therefore it could have been intercepted.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/911stand.html

Fact: Dick Cheney left Washington undefended on 9/11.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/usaf_911.html

The BBC briefly mentioned that Flight 77 hit a reinforced section of the Pentagon. What they failed to mention is that reinforcements on this section were completed on 9/11/2001 meaning this section of the building was nearly deserted when the plane hit.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_renovations.html

Fact: White House staff started taking Cipro on 9/11.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/frameup.html

 

[hybrid_x]

I've said it before on here. Human beings have a natural inclination towards order, imaginary or demonstrable. Conspiracy Theorists are confused people trying to find order in a confusing world. It doesn't matter if that order is the truth as long as it sets up a timeline of cause and effect to calm them. It's a form of psychological immaturity. They cannot accept that some things happen and there is no order to them. Luckily for these people as they mature the need to have everything explained away lessens.

This is a massive load of unintelligent nonsense.


Nobody is actually "A conspiracy theorist FULL STOP." Each matter and subject needs to be looked on its own with discernment, reasoning, intuition, and critical thinking.

You are a pr1ck, and it looks like you have copied and pasted this anyway. Even if you haven't, you are using it as a shield to ward off any beliefs that would crumble your tiny fragile mind that is infested with Group Think from the MSM.

People like you are toxic, you need to be quarantined from humanity.

 

[beorhthelm]

Agreed, it sounds ludicrous but then what do you make of the video? You can't write off the Anunnaki conspiracy when you're getting told by a former defence minister in Washington that UFOs do exist. You don't have to believe the 'conspiracy', but you can't rubbish the thought.

of course there is a great deal to be said for UFOs and aliens. i wonder, do you subscribe to the view that Nibiru is due to return soon, probably hidden by or is the comet ISON? also, would you agree the idea that chemtrails are being deployed to hide its arrival is a credible one?

 

[Guinness Boy]

All of "The Truth's" links debunked in six seconds.

It's like Google ping pong.

 

[hybrid_x]

Diana = murdererd
911 = inside job
77 = inside job
western media = corrupted and controlled by corps and banks
western goverments = " "
boston bombing = fasle flag to create martial law experiment
gold prices = fruadulant manipulation of prices
food = manipulation of labels.


If someone has not worked the above out they have not looked into the subject enough.

If anyone has any interest in UFO or abduction phenomena, this is about the only intelligent offering out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Ss-HIhixw

If anyone has any doubt about child sacrifice and mind control and who is involved then please check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dGorXJi1k4

If anyone has any doubt about the Vatican being evil and corrupt then check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2b9MvKmhls

 

[Guinness Boy]

This is a massive load of unintelligent nonsense.


Nobody is actually "A conspiracy theorist FULL STOP." Each matter and subject needs to be looked on its own with discernment, reasoning, intuition, and critical thinking.

You are a pr1ck, and it looks like you have copied and pasted this anyway. Even if you haven't, you are using it as a shield to ward off any beliefs that would crumble your tiny fragile mind that is infested with Group Think from the MSM.

People like you are toxic, you need to be quarantined from humanity.

Your second paragraph is contradicted by the next two.

 

[The Truth]

of course there is a great deal to be said for UFOs and aliens. i wonder, do you subscribe to the view that Nibiru is due to return soon, probably hidden by or is the comet ISON? also, would you agree the idea that chemtrails are being deployed to hide its arrival is a credible one?

I think Nibiru is a load of fear mongering rubbish and no, I don't believe Chemtrails are used for the above purpose. These sort of conspiracies you're giving me are the ones people generalise as the standard conspiracy. They just get put out on the internet to divert peoples attention away from logical conspiracies whilst feeding fire to the ignorant. The conspiracies you mention benefit the people defending the establishment tremendously, they often get used in attack against someone questioning the honesty of corporate news. The more time goes on the more stupid these generalisations of 'conspiracy theorists' will be. Why does being gullible give you the right to call us conspiracy theorists? couldn't we call you the war for peace theorists?

 

[beorhthelm]

Nobody is actually "A conspiracy theorist FULL STOP." Each matter and subject needs to be looked on its own with discernment, reasoning, intuition, and critical thinking.

Diana = murdererd
911 = inside job
77 = inside job
western media = corrupted and controlled by corps and banks
western goverments = " "
boston bombing = fasle flag to create martial law experiment
gold prices = fruadulant manipulation of prices
food = manipulation of labels.


If someone has not worked the above out they have not looked into the subject enough.

If anyone has any interest in UFO or abduction phenomena, this is about the only intelligent offering out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Ss-HIhixw

If anyone has any doubt about child sacrifice and mind control and who is involved then please check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dGorXJi1k4

If anyone has any doubt about the Vatican being evil and corrupt then check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2b9MvKmhls

i dont think theres anything to add really. except to ask, who is behind this all and to what end?

 

[beorhthelm]

I think Nibiru is a load of fear mongering rubbish and no, I don't believe Chemtrails are used for the above purpose. These sort of conspiracies you're giving me are the ones people generalise as the standard conspiracy. They just get put out on the internet to divert peoples attention away from logical conspiracies whilst feeding fire to the ignorant. The conspiracies you mention benefit the people defending the establishment tremendously, they often get used in attack against someone questioning the honesty of corporate news. The more time goes on the more stupid these generalisations of 'conspiracy theorists' will be. Why does being gullible give you the right to call us conspiracy theorists? couldn't we call you the war for peace theorists?

there's plenty of "alternative thinkers" who appear to believe in both Nibiru and various flavour of chemtrail. so they are all psyops then, to discredit the wider conspiracies? interesting.

by the way, i liked your previous wall of links. they were valuable in showing the amount of fact behind the subject

 

[The Truth]

there's plenty of "alternative thinkers" who appear to believe in both Nibiru and various flavour of chemtrail. so they are all psyops then, to discredit the wider conspiracies? interesting.

Nope, you're the one calling them Psyops. My point is, that the ridiculously stupid conspiracies you've posted are the ones that prevent not so smart people from finding out helpful information. I guess the idea of a massive planet hiding behind the clouds, appealed to you more than the possibility of world elites dictating our comfort of life and moral perspective with methods of illusion and manipulation? What else have you been researching? Have you found the Paul McCartney one yet?

 

[Nibble]

This is a massive load of unintelligent nonsense.


Nobody is actually "A conspiracy theorist FULL STOP." Each matter and subject needs to be looked on its own with discernment, reasoning, intuition, and critical thinking.

You are a pr1ck, and it looks like you have copied and pasted this anyway. Even if you haven't, you are using it as a shield to ward off any beliefs that would crumble your tiny fragile mind that is infested with Group Think from the MSM.

People like you are toxic, you need to be quarantined from humanity.

Quite telling that you wish for those that do not agree with you to be deemed toxic and separated from humanity. I thought that is the very antithesis of what you stood for? No matter.

No, not copied and pasted, just the observations of someone (me) who has looked into the various sources available and come to my own conclusions. I know it doesn't conform to the particular brand of brainwashing you have fallen victim to. It may be right, it may be wrong but it is nonetheless the conclusion a free thinking, averagely intelligent person has come to. I wish you luck with your quest for truth and hope for you that one day you too can enjoy the rewards and peace of mind that befalls those who, at the very least, attempt to think for themselves.

 

[The Truth]

Quite telling that you wish for those that do not agree with you to be deemed toxic and separated from humanity. I thought that is the very antithesis of what you stood for? No matter.

No, not copied and pasted, just the observations of someone (me) who has looked into the various sources available and come to my own conclusions. I know it doesn't conform to the particular brand of brainwashing you have fallen victim to. It may be right, it may be wrong but it is nonetheless the conclusion a free thinking, averagely intelligent person has come to. I wish you luck with your quest for truth and hope for you that one day you too can enjoy the rewards and peace of mind that befalls those who, at the very least, attempt to think for themselves.

Nibble, because you believe war is the answer for peace. Does that mean you are at peace of mind with what you think?