Freddie Goodwin.
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Anyone Else Hear This Extremely Encouraging Rumour Today?
- Thread starter Tom Hark Preston Park
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TrevorDove
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That's the spirit and shows your complete lack of understanding about how football works.
I've heard that there will be 3 players in and 5 out - with the 3 deals already done.
We will see!!
perth seagull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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Wilkins was on the verge of something similar before he was sacked, so while Poyet may not axe 15 players, let's hope he will at least be able to get rid of most of the deadwood.
Withdean Wanderer
Banned
3 in and 5 out is slightly different to 6 in and 15 out, isn't it?
Still, a complete lack of understanding, that's exactly what I've got, given i'm only a child after all...
Freddie Goodwin.
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There are not a load of talented players beating a pathway to Withers. OK, Falmer is taking shape but it's still a long time in a playing career and we are hardly likely to get real quality coming to join in a fight against relegation.
We've had what looked like good players coming in but that does not mean they will gel. Also, not many of our current players will attract interest from higher clubs so players may well sit tight.
I think the best we can hope for is an experinced defender & midfielder to try and bring some leadership on the pitch, but who fits the bill?
Apart from that, we will have to make do with the bunch we have in the hope that some of those players may just want to resue their pro football careers because there's a fair few whomight have the skill but not the application for a career in football.
We've had what looked like good players coming in but that does not mean they will gel. Also, not many of our current players will attract interest from higher clubs so players may well sit tight.
I think the best we can hope for is an experinced defender & midfielder to try and bring some leadership on the pitch, but who fits the bill?
Apart from that, we will have to make do with the bunch we have in the hope that some of those players may just want to resue their pro football careers because there's a fair few whomight have the skill but not the application for a career in football.
BensGrandad
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Why would no decent player want to join a club that is in a good catchment area for fans, has a new stadium being built, a manager with ambition and a chairman to match the ambition and be able to finance it.
Withdean Wanderer
Banned
The prospect of League 2 football perhaps?
If they were any good, they'd be off to a team challenging for promotion, if not already in the Championship!
TrevorDove
Member
Well done, the numbers are different - was there an abacus in your stocking this year?
The reference to your lack of understanding is regarding your comment that no-one will want any of our players and no players will want to come here plus the negative crap you constantly post.
Wait until the end of January (that's about 35 sleeps) and we will see who is here and who is not.
BensGrandad
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Any manager , if he is any good, and we assume that Gus Poyet is, would convince them that they and others who he could name are signing would ensure that we wouldnt be in Div 2 and they would be the basis on which to build the team to take us into The Championship and Falmer.
forumwayseagull
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That the whole point surely...SELING the dream....It does not need einstein to appreciate we will not go up this year, but with some good quality additions we certainly can next year...
The Merry Prankster
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We said that last year and look at us now. Going down with out a fight, relying on some as yet unknown and unsigned players to keep us up. My friend who who has been to a lot of games this season went to the Leeds game yesterday (staying with the in laws) and he quite rightly said we haven't got a SINGLE player who would get into their starting eleven. That's how bad things are. And before anyone asks I've been to pretty much every game, home and away.
CliveWalkerWingWizard
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I think the players we can temp probably fall into these catagories:
Good young players from league 2/league 1
Experienced players not getting a game in the championship/top league 1 (or even prem)
Youngsters from prem on long loan
There are players out there it is just choosing the correct ones - our scouts are very important to us.
I am hoping that Gus has his ideas from time at swindon/chelsea/spurs. I still think we are only 3/4 players short of a promotion chasing side.
Good young players from league 2/league 1
Experienced players not getting a game in the championship/top league 1 (or even prem)
Youngsters from prem on long loan
There are players out there it is just choosing the correct ones - our scouts are very important to us.
I am hoping that Gus has his ideas from time at swindon/chelsea/spurs. I still think we are only 3/4 players short of a promotion chasing side.
seagullsovergrimsby
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3 in and 5 out sounds more logical to me , the 15 that have been earmarked as not good enough will be swept aside between January and the end of June. There will be some players with another year on their contract being paid off to be sure.
Steve Foster
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I would say that we have not got any player that would get into any of the current top 6 teams. Slade didnt necessarily buy very badly but did not
buy the right mix of players in terms of temperment & other qualities. We clearly also lack decent coaching staff as well
Scotty Mac
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- Jul 13, 2003
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do you honestly see anybody wanting any of our players? two seasons of utter struggle at the arse end of league one isnt exactly going to give them a glowing cv is it? the only way i can see us shipping people out is if people with connections to the albion come in and get them - this is quite plausible for dean wilkins taking cox for example. port vale have no money so adams wont be taking any of his old boys, no club in our league is going to buy any of our players bar that last example, and in the league below the financial situation is so bad i dont see how anybody is going to afford them
the only way we will get rid of players is by paying up their contracts and releasing them - which could have a significant effect on the budget that poyet is given to work with
forumwayseagull
Well-known member
Bennett,Murray and Forster on their day are Quality....the rest well ahem?? Maybe not
TrevorDove
Member
I think you have answered your own point - people who know the players may rate them.
In addition those players you think are not good enough are professionals in football, they have come through the ranks and therefore people have seen something in them before, if they've done it once, maybe a change of scenario or playing in a different system will make them an asset at one and deemed a donkey at another.
That is the nature of football, I'm not saying all players will be snapped up but I reckon a good proportion of them are worth a punt at another club, at this level or below, in L2 of the conference.
forumwayseagull
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That is the beauty of football as it is all about opinions....
Kurt Nogan for example was shite at Luton and was bloody good for us....
Mickey Small was excellent for us and Shite at west Ham
Bobby Zamora...quality for us and then shite at spurs...
It must go on and on...
I think part of the problem is that there isnt any bloody time to actually coach the players. Playing two games a week for weeks on end leaves very little time outside of recovery and preparation for the next game to actually work on technique and touch which many of our players are patently lacking.
NMH
Banned
The concept of getting rid of many and bringing in a few is the most obvious one for anyone. I mean ANY one of us would look at this situation and do exactly that.
The thing one hopes about Gus, particularly, is that he can soon attract some reasonably decent 'first choice' players instead of getting snubbed through our lack of facilities (as has too often happened and we had to just accept 2nd or 3rd choices).
I won't go into naming names, but I think almost all of us know the ones most likely to go. The lazy ones, the ones that never make the squad, the ones that have done but are absolute donkeys, and the lads who just cannot make the grade. There's no good reason to have a lot of these 'c' teamers turning up just to collect a paycheck.
3.Promising youth team.
2.Reserve team of capable players, challenging for 1st-team places.
1.Quality first team squad with Championship-grade players and improving Div1 strength.
Key squad members;
A Captain capable of organizing and motivating.
A goalkeeper (at least) as good as Kuipers - pref. young and very talented/promising.
The thing one hopes about Gus, particularly, is that he can soon attract some reasonably decent 'first choice' players instead of getting snubbed through our lack of facilities (as has too often happened and we had to just accept 2nd or 3rd choices).
I won't go into naming names, but I think almost all of us know the ones most likely to go. The lazy ones, the ones that never make the squad, the ones that have done but are absolute donkeys, and the lads who just cannot make the grade. There's no good reason to have a lot of these 'c' teamers turning up just to collect a paycheck.
3.Promising youth team.
2.Reserve team of capable players, challenging for 1st-team places.
1.Quality first team squad with Championship-grade players and improving Div1 strength.
Key squad members;
A Captain capable of organizing and motivating.
A goalkeeper (at least) as good as Kuipers - pref. young and very talented/promising.