westy said:
Could you not say he used his contacts well in signing the Fulham side and the players know and liked/resepected him? Two things Mcghee seems to struggle with?
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Adams vs McGhee
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Could you not say he used his contacts well in signing the Fulham side and the players know and liked/resepected him? Two things Mcghee seems to struggle with?
Schrödinger's Toad
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westy said:
I don't buy this idea that he was "lucky" with the Zamora signing - he found a player from reserve-team football and paid what was for us a very substantial amount of money for a totally unproven player. He'd have taken a lot of flak if it'd backfired, so I can't see that it's anything but right that he take a huge amount of credit that the move was so successful.
Let's face it, McGhee took a similar risk with Turienzo, and cocked it up ... it isn't a case of luck.
Finchley Seagull
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Kinky Gerbils said:
Why not put words in people's mouths? You will do anything to attack McGhee but here is a radical idea, why not support him and the team as the season has not even started yet.
Of course he used his contacts well. But as someone on here pointed out, Adams built a team to get out of the basement division which, with the greatest respect, is not as hard as building a team to survive in the Championship.
McGhee could probably call upon plenty of contacts to do the same, but he was/is trying to build a Championship side, which he did the year he kept us up. He should be commended for that gret acheivment.
Now he is having to do it all over again because of the loss of the players i mentioned.
Finding Championship standard players for peanutts / Free is alot harder than paying 20k for Paul Brooker who was a class above in the basement, but wasnt/isnt up to the Championship....
McGhee could probably call upon plenty of contacts to do the same, but he was/is trying to build a Championship side, which he did the year he kept us up. He should be commended for that gret acheivment.
Now he is having to do it all over again because of the loss of the players i mentioned.
Finding Championship standard players for peanutts / Free is alot harder than paying 20k for Paul Brooker who was a class above in the basement, but wasnt/isnt up to the Championship....
Finchley Seagull
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Repugnant Toad said:
How about he was lucky that Ron Noades jumped in and stole Pinamonte before we could sign him and freed up the money for Zamora. Or did Adams use foresight and play a jedi mind trick on Noades?
Also, it is now accepted that Turienzo was signed by Dick Knight (not Mark McGhee).
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Who by?Finchley Seagull said:
Is it also accepted that Carole and Frutos were, then?
blockhseagull
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Really don't think you can compare the two to be honest.
Micky managed us in the bottom division and for about two months in the division we are in now.
MM has spent most of his time here in the championship and has been said building a team for peanuts in this league is much harder.
Micky managed us in the bottom division and for about two months in the division we are in now.
MM has spent most of his time here in the championship and has been said building a team for peanuts in this league is much harder.
Schrödinger's Toad
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Finchley Seagull said:
Maybe, but that still doesn't make the Zamora signing in any way lucky.
Also, I don't believe McGhee had no say in Turienzo. No credible manager in this country allows their chairman to buy players they don't want. He's at least partly responsible.
Finchley Seagull said:
How have i put words in anyones mouth?
Silent Bob
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Yeam, right, thanks.Icy Gull said:
Finchley Seagull
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Repugnant Toad said:
We were lucky. I don't think we actually scouted Zamora before his loan deal. I get the impression that we were just ringing around for a striker and he happened to be available. Once we had seen him play, I think any manager would have worked out he would have made a difference in Division 3 (as it was then) and we should try to sign him permanently. In the end we were lucky that Bristol Rovers would let him go and got a great deal.
As for Turienzo, I have heard various people on here say that it was Dick Knight who signed him. It is unlikely people would make it up although McGhee may have had some impact.
However, comparing them is stupid. How can you expect to attract a striker in the fourth level for £100k six years ago and then attract a good striker for the second level (a year ago) for a similar amount. It is ridiculous and is just another example of the anti-McGhee irrational behaviour. As has been said before, Stoke paid almost £1 million for Bangoura and he scored 10 goals. So, how can we expect to find a great Championship striker for £100-150k. We had to gamble and Turienzo did not pay off.
Icy Gull said:
I believe it.
But it brings up questions as well.
Why did Knight sign him?
does Knight get the credit for the two Frencies as well?
Also why is a chairman bringing in two players?
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Finchley Seagull said:
Maybe some of people do not think he should still be in a job after last season and whilst they will support the club, they will not back the manager?
Deon Burton
Marcus Tudgay
Two off top of head.
Pavilionaire
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McGhee has a decent track record, as does Adams. For my money Adams was the better Albion manager out of the 2 of them, and is still the better manager now.
I think Cov are a team on the way up and Adams is doing a good job. McGhee, on the other hand, cannot attract anyone decent to this club and I genuinely worry when the only permanent signings we seem to be able to make are non-league players and old crocks.
I think Cov are a team on the way up and Adams is doing a good job. McGhee, on the other hand, cannot attract anyone decent to this club and I genuinely worry when the only permanent signings we seem to be able to make are non-league players and old crocks.