[TV] 9/11 - BBC1 doc just started

[dadams2k11]

Maybe designed to be hit by an aircraft full of fuel at combine 250 tons but not the likelihood of 2000 degree heat from the fires caused the steel structure to fail. Steel bends at around 300 degrees but melts at 1300 degrees. It would have been a furnace inside there directed through the lift shafts directly down. A number of people died on the ground floor immediately after the impact due to fire balls down the shafts.

Also you need to be reminded a building is designed by humans, especially back then, they can only calculate for eventualities, what happens in reality can be very different.

What happened in the aftermath is very much debatable.

Very interesting.

Why did WTC7 collapse?

 

[dadams2k11]

It was aliens.

Crop circles in the water.

None of the US Generals were vaccinated.



Am I close?

Probably started in a lab in wuhan [emoji846]

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Watching the National Geographic documentary on it now. Considering this wasn't quite camera phone era it's amazing how much raw footage there is of the day. Obviously the collapses etc were later in the day and covered by the news crews but the first plane hitting is captured by firefighters who happened to be filming that day

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

https://www.nist.gov/topics/disaster-failure-studies/faqs-nist-wtc-7-investigation

Very interesting.

Why did WTC7 collapse?

 

[The Clamp]

Very interesting.

Why did WTC7 collapse?

https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/

Your questions have been answered. Long ago and many times over. All that is left is your paranoia.

 

[schmunk]

Very interesting.

Why did WTC7 collapse?

There's a lovely big FAQ here from the very serious and qualified scientists at NIST: https://www.nist.gov/topics/disaster-failure-studies/faqs-nist-wtc-7-investigation

 

[dadams2k11]

https://www.nist.gov/topics/disaster-failure-studies/faqs-nist-wtc-7-investigation

There's a lovely big FAQ here from the very serious and qualified scientists at NIST: https://www.nist.gov/topics/disaster-failure-studies/faqs-nist-wtc-7-investigation

NIST report?

That's like giving Matt Hancock the job of giving contracts out for PPE. [emoji846]

 

[The Clamp]

NIST report?

That's like giving Matt Hancock the job of giving contracts out for PPE. [emoji846]

You asked the question. It was answered. There’s no satisfactory answer for conspiracy theorists. Sorry man, but grow up.

 

[dadams2k11]

You asked the question. It was answered. There’s no satisfactory answer for conspiracy theorists. Sorry man, but grow up.

So no jet fuel, and the fires were so hot that they weakend steel and the building collapse.

Interesting.

 

[The Clamp]

So no jet fuel, and the fires were so hot that they weakend steel and the building collapse.

Interesting.

Okay. You have the floor. Tell us how it collapsed. Tell us how the twin towers and the subsequent building collapses occurred. How did it all go down? ….

 

[schmunk]

Okay. You have the floor. Tell us how it collapsed. Tell us how the twin towers and the subsequent building collapses occurred. How did it all go down? ….

Also - why, if not terrorists? Cui bono?

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

So no jet fuel, and the fires were so hot that they weakend steel and the building collapse.

Interesting.

https://firefighterinsider.com/house-fire-temperature-how-hot-does-it-get/

Last one from me as I'm off to the pub to talk to my mates about the weather.

If you remember I stated correctly steel melts at 1300 degrees, building fires can reach 1500 degrees unattended. The sprinkler systems failed on lower floors and those higher failed when one tower come down, damaging the water supply.

The fire raged freely until the building collapsed.

That is an acceptable explanation unless you believe the FBI CIA The Marines or Mickey Mouse had a hand in it.

Bugger forgot Walt Disney was a Nazi

 

[dadams2k11]

Okay. You have the floor. Tell us how it collapsed. Tell us how the twin towers and the subsequent building collapses occurred. How did it all go down? ….

I dont have the answers. That why I question it.

But I must be a conspiracy theorist because I question things and don't always take what we get told as official or the truth.

It's not like the world leaders would lie to their people is it? Weapons of mass destruction that we were told was in Iraq that were never ever found? Why was that?

There is some absolutely dumb conspiracies out there, like there was actually no planes involved or that flight 77 actually landed and the people were killed.

My stance is I won't just except what I'm told by our leaders without question. You would be a fool to just think they have our best interest at heart. There's always an agenda.

 

[dadams2k11]

https://firefighterinsider.com/house-fire-temperature-how-hot-does-it-get/

Last one from me as I'm off to the pub to talk to my mates about the weather.

If you remember I stated correctly steel melts at 1300 degrees, building fires can reach 1500 degrees unattended. The sprinkler systems failed on lower floors and those higher failed when one tower come down, damaging the water supply.

The fire raged freely until the building collapsed.

That is an acceptable explanation unless you believe the FBI CIA The Marines or Mickey Mouse had a hand in it.

Read post above.

Edit: Enjoy the pub[emoji106]

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

Wasn't WTC7 the building that the BBC announced had collapsed 30 minutes before it actually did? The BBC has since explained in detail how all this came about and said there was no story or conspiracy, but of course this won't stop all the conspiracy theorists carrying on with their own narrative

 

[BBassic]

I generally find conspiracy theorist arguments boil down to this:

"The experts are lying. What do I think? I don't know, I'm not an expert."

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Read post above.

Edit: Enjoy the pub[emoji106]

I agree with asking questions, I often do and certainly attempt to read a balanced view of news, never just one source. That way an educated person can balance their opinion.

 

[dadams2k11]

I will leave it now but thanks for the debate, without any insults, to those that have replied to me.

We all se things differently and I suppose that is the beauty of life.

 

[dadams2k11]

I agree with asking questions, I often do and certainly attempt to read a balanced view of news, never just one source. That way an educated person can balance their opinion.

Erm, not sure if you are saying I am not educated? [emoji848]

I left school with not good grades in my exams but now I can hack the f8ck out of things for a living [emoji106]

 

[The Clamp]

I dont have the answers. That why I question it.

But I must be a conspiracy theorist because I question things and don't always take what we get told as official or the truth.

It's not like the world leaders would lie to their people is it? Weapons of mass destruction that we were told was in Iraq that were never ever found? Why was that?

There is some absolutely dumb conspiracies out there, like there was actually no planes involved or that flight 77 actually landed and the people were killed.

My stance is I won't just except what I'm told by our leaders without question. You would be a fool to just think they have our best interest at heart. There's always an agenda.

Oh do **** off.