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[TV] 9/11 - BBC1 doc just started
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If you were conspiring to bring down some buildings in New York, why would you involve the BBC in your plot?
Isn't it more likely that the reporter simply made a mistake? Occam's razor, buddy.
Thank goodness they didn’t rope in Kay Burley to their conspiracy, the only person in the world to exaggerate 9/11 when she declared live on Sky News that “the whole Eastern Seaboard is under attack”
Weststander
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https://firefighterinsider.com/house-fire-temperature-how-hot-does-it-get/
Last one from me as I'm off to the pub to talk to my mates about the weather.
If you remember I stated correctly steel melts at 1300 degrees, building fires can reach 1500 degrees unattended. The sprinkler systems failed on lower floors and those higher failed when one tower come down, damaging the water supply.
The fire raged freely until the building collapsed.
That is an acceptable explanation unless you believe the FBI CIA The Marines or Mickey Mouse had a hand in it.
Bugger forgot Walt Disney was a Nazi
Of course that rubbish eh!
SeagullinExile
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https://firefighterinsider.com/house-fire-temperature-how-hot-does-it-get/
Last one from me as I'm off to the pub to talk to my mates about the weather.
If you remember I stated correctly steel melts at 1300 degrees, building fires can reach 1500 degrees unattended. The sprinkler systems failed on lower floors and those higher failed when one tower come down, damaging the water supply.
The fire raged freely until the building collapsed.
That is an acceptable explanation unless you believe the FBI CIA The Marines or Mickey Mouse had a hand in it.
Bugger forgot Walt Disney was a Nazi
Serious question. Can you give me an example of any other steel framed building ever collapsing at near free fall speed due to a fire?
I find this an interesting subject.
I was in Manhattan on 9/11 working (only arrived a couple of days before). WTC7 was where my boss and his team were based and I’d been there very many times (I was working uptown on E54th when it happened though at our main office) and I was due down there for a meeting on the afternoon of 9/11.
Absolutely surreal week of my life….from the first indication that something had ‘happened’ downtown, the ensuing chaos and confusion ofnoffice evacuation etc, the days of wandering the deserted streets of Manhattan to the eventual (almost empty and I didn’t sleep) flight home several days later.
Absolutely surreal week of my life….from the first indication that something had ‘happened’ downtown, the ensuing chaos and confusion ofnoffice evacuation etc, the days of wandering the deserted streets of Manhattan to the eventual (almost empty and I didn’t sleep) flight home several days later.
Not really, trying to think, if I do I'll come back to you.
I was an aircraft engine for years and now a beer quality manager so not my forte, I was only following reports like most would and having an interest in events.
SeagullinExile
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Fair do's. Me neither tbh. I do find it interesting that THREE steel framed buildings collapsed due to fire in the space of a few hours on that tragic day though, especially when only two were hit by aircraft.
Food for thought.
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Weststander
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Jet setter.
Quite.
I am not sure what @<u><a href="https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/member.php?u=17302" target="_blank">SeagullinExile</a></u> is intrigued about.
May as well say 'That Titanic, eh? Odd that it sank.'
I must be missing an undercurrent here . . . perhaps someone might enlighten me at some point.
It was more than just a fire in two of those buildings. There were two massive explosions.
I find it interesting how the two twin towers remained intact for 40mins or so. I’d have thought the heat and pressure in both explosions would have toppled each tower instantly.
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30107113
SeagullinExile
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Thank's for posting. I know about these ones. But they don't collapse in near free fall speed, which was my original question. I might be wrong, but didn't the Madrid one burn for days before collapsing?
SeagullinExile
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I'd get it if all three were hit by aircraft. But building 7? It niggles me.
Weststander
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Quite.
I am not sure what @<u><a href="https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/member.php?u=17302" target="_blank">SeagullinExile</a></u> is intrigued about.
May as well say 'That Titanic, eh? Odd that it sank.'
I must be missing an undercurrent here . . . perhaps someone might enlighten me at some point.
You know the score by now, Blair/Bush/Kissinger/Haile Sellasie/George Clooney/HM Queen blew up the twin towers, carefully demolished so that they collapsed inwards. To get their hands on Afgan oil
.A bloke on youtube proved it, probably sporting a ZZ Top type beard and a sunburnt back of neck.
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Interesting comment on the first video about NIST not be truthful in the report of WTC7, after a FOIA was requested in 2012.
That can't be true?
Brightonfan1983
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There was a superb BBC doc about this particular conspiracy theory ages ago; I vividly remember them describing how 30 tons of aluminium from the planes' hulls and water, behave. A quick google brings up this:
"Both scientific experiments and 250 reported disasters suffered by the aluminium industry have shown that the combination of molten aluminium and water releases enormous explosions".
Occam's Razor indeed.
https://www.history.co.uk/article/the-biggest-911-conspiracy-theories-debunked
dadams2k11
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It didn't collapse, the steel frame was still intact after they put the fire out.
Another thing that nags me...
Surely the WTC site was a crime scene, but the steel was being shipped out to China within days, which is strange.
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Interesting article here.
https://ukdiss.com/examples/world-trade-center-failure-mechanisms.php
The other fires didn’t not receive the huge impact of jetliners travelling at 500mph with a full load of fuel.
We know the twin towers didn’t have the strength of the traditional skyscraper steel frame. Plus the use of much aluminium which has a far lower melting point of 660C.