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So the Belgian league has been cancelled, The Dutch League has effectively been cancelled, all divisions in Scotland other than the SPL have gone, and all non-league football in England has been cancelled, with the National League being the latest to be call their season off today. Its...

The documentary about them from kids up to Knebworth is fantastic, think its called Supersonic. Really personal, gets right into the band. Whatever you might think about them they will go down in history as culturally important, and not many bands will say that. I'm not their biggest fan...

Boardmasters in late August, hasn't gone yet but will surely be cancelled for the second year in a row. Kings of Leon were the headliners I was going to see :(

True, although the 2019-20 flu season peaked in December this winter, so those related deaths not appearing on the '2020 year-to-date' figures. Following on from that, I believe deaths so far in 2020 were right at the low end of the usual range - so to jump from that to '20-year high' is a big...

It will come back, logistics will take a little time but the demand will be there, in a decade we'll look back at this period as a little blip, nothing more. Some airlines will go bust, but the planes will be sold on and will be back up in the air with a new paint-job. The world hasn't...

I can only refer you to my post immediately above; to this graph from Indonesia https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/editorcharts/jznpnxdqplm/index.html, and the news reported on the BBC today that there were 6,700 deaths recorded in Ecuador's Guayas province over the last two weeks compared to...

Your original post queried the difference between dying OF Covid19, and WITH Covid19, which was then picked up by many to suggest that many of the people who are dying would have died anyway of something else and the overall number of deaths may not be too different to a normal year. We've...

If anyone uses the phrase 'similar to the flu' in their assessment, I'll dismiss the rest of their argument.

What a very stubborn way to stick to your original hypothesis despite it being shown to be totally wrong by the poster you're quoting :lolol: Deaths for the week in question increased by 6000 on the 5-yr average even though only about 3700 were confirmed covid related, with the obvious...

I think what this point of view misses is that many young and healthy do get quite sick but receive hospital care and recover. In a scenario with no lockdown and overwhelmed hospitals many wouldn't be so lucky

Is a funny one, I got 100% in my maths A level in '92 and I hadn't heard the phrase BIDMAS until about 3 years ago, I just don't think they taught it in the late 80s. I would also quite happily say the answer was 96 - despite knowing that multiplication does take priority it wasn't taught quite...

Well, what I said wasn't incorrect, I'm sure you can give me that at least. The point is that its still conjecture. I will give you the 'some' but that's a word with such a wide meaning as to be meaningless in this context. It substantially matters if comorbidity is a minor component or a major...

No, it doesn't mean that. If there are 100's of unreported deaths from the last week, there will certainly be many many unreported deaths from yesterday that will only be reported in the coming days or longer.

For me I think Plooks has won the argument in this thread, because those arguing with him seem to have taken as fact that the death count is primarily not due to covid, instead just 'with covid', but as yet there is most definitely no actual evidence at present to confirm that to be true.

I think some of them have been assigned to previous days

I guess the take home message from this thread, albeit that no one actually knows the precise answer to the question originally posed, is that the lockdowns are working. Hate to think what the death numbers would become if we weren't doing this. Moreover, if it is the case that the people doing...

Do you really see Nandy as from the right of the party? Or is competence just viewed that way. :lol:

To briefly go back to the criticism of the way the Tories are handling the Covid19 response, I am sure there are many things they could do better or differently - but I am sure the same would be true of a Labour government - this isn't easy. Moreover, if there are things they have done which can...

Its a very competitive cut-throat business, premier league football. If someone offers you an advantage and you don't take it, if you allow others to get a jump on you, well then you'll not be playing premier league football much longer. and in answer to your question, the world went ****ing...

I've always taken the contrary view on footballer's salaries, that they are fully justified and, together with other sportsmen, I reckon its actually the only real global example of socialism in action - because only in football do the workers on the shop floor receive the riches that their...