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  1. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    The Tories making sure that they spread the net wide in searching for Theresa May's SPAD replacements. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-adviser-gavin-barwell-chief-of-staff-nick-timothy-fiona-hill-election-latest-a7783871.html
  2. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    How do you know what Marxist is then? He's definitely more popular with the kids than Milton Friedman. The modern Labour Party is more Keynes than Marx anyway. It's just a word the right uses to scare people.
  3. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    Have you read much Marx?
  4. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    And the Labour Party won't let you get away with thinking you can get rid of the leader and forget about it. Especially, if as seems extremely possible we are back at the ballot box in the next 6-12 months. Corbyn's no messiah but he has done what he said he'd do - coalesce support and bring on...
  5. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    The Tories will also have to come up with a decent policy program before the next election. This manifesto was awful and you can't rely on the right-wing press to smear your way to victory, you have fired all the ammunition now. I'd advise maybe to get some young people involved in policy but...
  6. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    Wrong again. Corbyn won the first leadership election if you discount the new votes. Owen Smith was no alternative in the second. The Tory Party had an entryist plot let the right of the Parliamentary Party into Government with no support whatsoever from the members, outside of Theresa May's...
  7. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    I'm not. I'm saying that the motivation to remove Corbyn if anything proves my point. Labour has been obsessed about whether they've got the right person. The Tories didn't give a shit whether they did.
  8. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    You make an extremely valid point.
  9. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    If she'd had to debate wit anyone of above average intelligence live she would have been found out.
  10. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    Another thing the Tories have got wrong. Not very good at forecasts are they....
  11. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    Just because you ran shit campaigns and dispensed with the teams responsible for them doesn't absolve you of the blame for the outcome. The Tories are 100% responsible for where we are and the electorate will know that at the next election. This wasn't bad luck, it was a catalogue of clangers...
  12. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    It was overplayed. They could have had a proper contest, it was just the Conservative Party and establishment was in a real hurry. And they then pilloried the Labour Party for their choice of leader, despite having the worst leader of a major party that I've seen in my lifetime themselves.
  13. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    The point I'm making is the party is as much to blame if not more than May. Getting rid of her doesn't remove the stain. If you make your living on good decision making and stability, you can see why this sort of thing matters. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
  14. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    The difference is the turmoil in the Labour Party has been borne of a desire to make sure they had the right man. The Tories couldn't wait to annoint May so much so that they completely forgot to actually see if she was at all cut out for the job. What a total **** up.
  15. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    You are missing the point. I'm not railing against the referendum result, I am questioning the checks and balances of a party that has seen two leaders evaporate through flawed personal decision making in less than a year. Process wise, something is wrong and it needs a serious review. You...
  16. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    Cameron and Osborne had a side. They took a risk and by their own terms they lost. It was a cynical move to stop defections to UKIP - they never thought it would happen. The alternative was either a SNP/Labour coalition or a UKIP/ Conservative one. So the Prime Minister and Chancellor for...
  17. spring hall convert

    General Election Post Match Ratings

    Actually to be fair, you did nothing that doesn't go on in the match rating threads. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
  18. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    I wasn't asking you to apologise. You wrote some very disingenuous stuff about voting Independent next time, I was just asking you to own your vote. Fair enough if you like your local MP. But the right can't get away with portraying this as some kind of Stockholm Syndrome situation like they...
  19. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    Not her gamble. Your gamble. You all need to own it. At any point you could have spoken up about it if you disagreed. Some on here did. Some Tories on here didn't even vote for her. You also all knew what Lynton Crosby was like after his vile campaign in the London mayoral campaign but you...
  20. spring hall convert

    General Election 2017

    Furthermore Canterbury and Kensington suggest that if they can mobilse resources on the ground and run effective social media they can win seats that Blair won in '97. There's concerns elsewhere for sure but that's what'll be keeping Tory HQ up at night in the coming months.

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