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  1. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    wot Husty's not a big JLS fan ?!?
  2. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    http://youtu.be/r4SLOr2icnY I dont like JLS myself mate, I'm a bit old for that. Seeing as you cant understand the written word, maybe you can watch a video... with your chips... but turn the sound down if its too complex, and put on some JLS :)
  3. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    This is Brighton mate.. there are thinkers down here... Its not like Leeds... thank god. Sorry you dont understand, maybe a little too complex for you. Dont worry about it though... have some chips !
  4. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    No, I'm not having a laugh... As I said, science can describe what electricity does and how it behaves.. but it doesnt actually know what it is. You say 'the movement of electrons'. First.. what is an electron. No one has seen one, or even put a finger on one. According to quantum mechanics its...
  5. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    Science is a religion. Its just that the followers dont realise it.
  6. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    Its actually the exact opposite of arrogance to suggest that there are certain things we will never know.. its humility to accept that.
  7. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    Science doesnt really admit it though.. it just keeps going pretending that eventually it will be able to explian everything.. it cant, neither can religion. Do you know that science doenst even really know what 'electricity' is for example. It can describe it, but it doesnt really 'know' what...
  8. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    No I dont think so, I'm with the Sioux Indians on this... The Great Mystery... I dont believe in Religion, and I dont believe in Science either.
  9. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    I do seem to have not accpeted certain basic tenants of science, which others accept in blind faith. Science doesnt infact even have a proper therory of how consciousness is produced. How can it in fact? Its impossible to study consciousness objectively. How can consciousness explain itself...
  10. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    What link... ? I didnt post any links... I'm not confusing qualia with 'being awake', maybe you are? you sure you're replying to the right person?
  11. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    mate I have read a great deal on the nature of awareness and consciousness, otherwise I wouldnt be spouting off about it. Its not news to many people in science, google 'consciousness the hard problem' and then repost. Also read David Chalmers. You will see that your assetion that its trivial is...
  12. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    Triggaaar, you aint as up to speed with current scientific thinking as you suppose. I suggest you read some David Chalmers. Mind you , if the answer 'in my brain' satisfies you , then maybe you dont need to. However the answer 'in my brain' does show that you have a kind of religious faith in...
  13. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    again.. science has a very hard time delaing with 'consciousness' In fact there still, today, is no accepted scientific explantion of how consciousness occurs.. or what it is. Think about it. Where is your consciousness? (dont say inside my brain) If you believe it is produced by the brain, by...
  14. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    The problem with 'consciousness' in both animals and humans is that there is actually no test for it at all. There is no 'conclusive' evidence that anyone is actaully conscious at all. Look up 'philosophical zombie' for more. and that is the problem, because we are conscious beings, its very...
  15. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    Present Science DOES leave out the effect of awareness on evolution. At the moment Science doesnt even accept that many animals even have rudimentary awareness. >>They didn't get together and say 'wow, that's totally cool brother, If you read back I wasnt suggesting that the animals themselves...
  16. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    nah squirells believe it or not.. have a google! and what will we look like in a million years? I dread to think..
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    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    Yes I understand the current view of the survival of the best adapted, however 'consciousness' or 'awareness' is always left out of the equation. I think there ar random mutations as well, but I can help but think that some aspects of evolution could be affected by the consciousness of the...
  18. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    no, but it would be nice if some people were this considerate. lol
  19. Dub-67

    Gary Lineker in a spot of bother

    While I do actually think we did evolve, and that the theory of evolution is probably broadly correct, Guy Crouchback is correct to say that it has not been proved. It hasnt. The fossil record is full of holes.. there are massive gaps in the record. There are countless examples of huge 'jumps'...

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