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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,358
Surrey
That was a complete set up job by Tangoman and Vance to do their best to bully and belittle Zelensky. Well done Zelensky for standing up to those two pricks
Exactly. He was always just going to threaten to pull the plug unless Zelensky accepts losing territory in some bullshit deal.

Trump thinks he's some sort of diplomatic genius for this, as if nobody had thought of it before. Everybody else thinks he a total cvnt.

And Reform have nailed themselves to the Trump mast. Let's hope it costs those morons too.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,358
Surrey
Painful watch but zelensky seemed to come in with the wrong attitude. This was so predictable. He should be on his hands and knees like starmer.
No he absolutely shouldn't. If Russia had taken the south west of England, and we'd gone to see Trump about a peace deal where he insists that land has gone and we should just accept that, I'd want our PM to tell him to fvck off too. Sometimes you just have to take a stand.
 


dwayne

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
16,684
London
Exactly. He was always just going to threaten to pull the plug unless Zelensky accepts losing territory in some bullshit deal.

Trump thinks he's some sort of diplomatic genius for this, as if nobody had thought of it before. Everybody else thinks he a total cvnt.

And Reform have nailed themselves to the Trump mast. Let's hope it costs those morons too.
Unfortunately the deal is gonna have to be bullshit there probably is no other way. Peace is the main objective.
 








GT49er

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 1, 2009
50,459
Gloucester
I don’t think KS or the King personally would want Trump anywhere near this Country, but the invitation was a classic case of keeping your friends close and your potential enemies even closer. They both knew Trump would lap up the chance of a second State visit and if that what it takes to keep our relationship with the US and potentially act as an intermediary for Ukraine and other European countries, so be it.
That is a classic strategy. One of the best examples of the strategy in use was when the Campbells invited the MacDonalds to a feast in Glencoe to celebrate their new friendship (look it up if you don't know). Sadly, this is not the case here.
Trump is a groupie in terms of royalty and celebrity. Having a door slammed in his face by royalty would resonate with the orange arsehole far more than any number of convictions in the supreme court in the USA!
 


























South Stand Bonfire

Who lit that match then?
NSC Patron
Jan 24, 2009
2,848
Shoreham-a-la-mer
That is a classic strategy. One of the best examples of the strategy in use was when the Campbells invited the MacDonalds to a feast in Glencoe to celebrate their new friendship (look it up if you don't know). Sadly, this is not the case here.
Trump is a groupie in terms of royalty and celebrity. Having a door slammed in his face by royalty would resonate with the orange arsehole far more than any number of convictions in the supreme court in the USA!
I think the invitation, no matter how vile Trump and Vance are, was a master stroke of negotiation though. You give something your opponent really really values highly, but at minimal value to yourself…and you could delay/withdraw the offer at a later date if things don’t go to plan.
 


GT49er

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 1, 2009
50,459
Gloucester
Unfortunately the deal is gonna have to be bullshit there probably is no other way. Peace is the main objective.
Not for Trump (and Musk who stands to add billions to his billions). Profit is their main objective, like a vulture picking over the remains that Putin has left of Mariupol, Bucha (spell?), etc. This is evil men trying to take over the world.
 








Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Unfortunately the deal is gonna have to be bullshit there probably is no other way. Peace is the main objective.
Is it? Their kids have been kidnapped and taken into Russia, Putin has had to ask North Korea to help out, but Zelensky has to accept being humiliated like a playground squabble for peace?

There was only one man in that office.
 


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