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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)







Eric the meek

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raymondo said:
I read last week (somewhere, yes 🤦🏼‍♂️) that NATO has sent three ships to the Baltic to 'monitor'. It's quite an area though.

Still waiting for the Finns to tell us the results of their investigation.
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I was watching the American Youtuber who runs the channel 'What the ship' for maritime shipping. He can pinpoint all the cables on the shipping charts, pinpoint all the traffic, and even measure their speed. He knows which ship cut the cables, and when. I assume the Nato ships will have all this data at their fingertips.
 


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Eric the meek said:
I was watching the American Youtuber who runs the channel 'What the ship' for maritime shipping. He can pinpoint all the cables on the shipping charts, pinpoint all the traffic, and even measure their speed. He knows which ship cut the cables, and when. I assume the Nato ships will have all this data at their fingertips.
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One would hope so 👍.
 










Eric the meek

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Jesus Christ. You 'won' by 87%. Isn't that enough?

Do you really have to persecute the Belarusian relatives of the participants of a rally in Warsaw? Really?

 
















Triggaaar

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Eric the meek

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raymondo said:
Orban getting caught between his love for both Putin and Trump...the latter won out this time.
www.euractiv.com

Hungary lifts blockade on EU Russia sanctions renewal - Euractiv

But EU diplomats warn that this is unlikely to be Hungary's last veto.
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'Szijjártó said last week that Hungary would consult the Trump administration before deciding whether to agree to renew EU sanctions against Russia.'

So a relatively minor but highly obstructive member of the EU, wants to consult with the Trump administration, before Trump has met with Putin? Hmmm. It sounds that both Marco Rubio and the EU have got the measure of Hungary.

Russia has got its fingers in so, so many pies. I've no doubt that we still have more to learn on the true extent of it.
 








Triggaaar

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raymondo said:
I guess they could but doubt they will. They'll hope Hungary will pivot back to being more solid EU at some point - "keep your enemies closer" someone said.
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I'm thinking the important bit is whether they can. It would be difficult to persuade Hungary to support democracy rather than Putin if there's no stick.
 
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Triggaaar said:
I'm thinking the important bit is whether they can. It would be difficult to persuade Hungary to support democracy rather than Putin of there's no stick.
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Hmmm... according to Wiki, article 7 of the EU:

Main article: Article 7 of the Treaty on European Union
While a state can leave, there is no provision for a state to be expelled. But TEU Article 7 provides for the suspension of certain rights of a member state if a member persistently breaches the EU's founding values.
 








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