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[Albion] Club selling your seat, is this right?
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Wardy's twin
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- Oct 21, 2014
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The club caught between a rock and a hard place. People complain about atmosphere and empty seats and when club tries to do something about it they are then deemed to be wrong.
Wardy's twin
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- Oct 21, 2014
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Never seen Harvey's on my travels , most away games I have been to the beer in the ground has been poor or non existent. The concourse areas are poor and the view is mixed.
Oh, do f**k off! Seriously.
ROSM
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I don't think they're wrong for moving away fans. I don't know enough about thos specific incident to know if they're right or wrong. If it is as has been portrayed by the OP then it does sounds a bit weird and likely to be ultra vires
ROSM
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Harveys doesn't travel well. I don't think we do local ales now either as sodexo have trouble sourcing them
But my point still stands when people pick and choose away games they base it on factors including the facilities at the grounds. In the epl we can be choosy who we allow in for home fans amd know most away teams will sell out. Of heaven forbid we drop into the championship then neither are a given
- Oct 17, 2008
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I do largely agree. When I used to do aways it’d mostly be factors like transport (journey time, travel cost, how easy to get to the stadium), kick off time/day of the week, followed by view of the pitch/the stadium.
I think it’s a great thing we provide a good experience for away supporters.
A large part of why we (at least initially) went above and beyond in this respect, with things like themed team colours lighting, local ales etc, is because of the community stadium aspect to the planning permission.
We had to be seen to be delivering a family friendly, community environment and limiting chances of anti social behaviour in and around the stadium. Treating away fans well certainly plays a part in this.
- Jul 27, 2024
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I agree with all that. The Withdean was such an embarrassment. The Amex is a place I want away fans to feel safe and welcome (I mean personally, not football wise of course).
Kalimantan Gull
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You are on a lot of these threads with similar arguments. Your main thrust seems to be that the club is making these rules to make more money, which is hard to grasp considering that when a ticket is sold on the exchange the STH gets his money back. So I think it's far more about fairness. A season ticket holder gets a discount by buying in bulk, which the rest of us don't get. No one has yet made a compelling argument why that discount should automatically be passed on to a friend or family member of the season ticket holder, so that they can go to one or two games a season at a discount, whilst the rest of us occasional visitors have to pay full price.
fosters headband
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One thing I can’t see mentioned here is how much TV causes issues for fans. When I purchase my season ticket it is with the view (except for a small amount evening games) would be a 3pm KO on a Saturday afternoon, a time I can easily attend. So far this season I believe we have had two. We have had the majority home so far changed, times and days, all to comply with tv demands. The club make massive amounts of money for these games, so they should not penalise fans who have paid hard earned money for these games but now cannot attend. The club needs to consider this when claiming STH,s have failed to attend rearranged games.
Fair point. Maybe they should say need to attend 75% of the games which are at their original date and time.
With due respect, have you been living in a cave for the last few decades, or at least since 2017! EPL fixtures are always subject to being moved so I'm not sure you can genuinely argue that when you bought the season ticket it was on the assumption the vast majority of kick offs would be at 3pm on a Saturday. I agree that TV causes issues but it's hardly unexpected.
Lucky escape.
Mind you, if he’s found to have breached club policy further, they're going to give him back the Everton ticket.
Especially now we are having Friday evening games again.
ROSM
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Out of interest do we have much of a waiting list for season tickets now? Given that the club gets the money up front and a share of anything resold through the exchange you can only really justify clawing back season tickets if there is a huge waiting list.
Unless........we are planning to do a man city and look at the tourist market to sell tickets at a premium on a match by match basis?
Unless........we are planning to do a man city and look at the tourist market to sell tickets at a premium on a match by match basis?
dsr-burnley
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- Aug 15, 2014
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That would be both of them, then.
schmunk
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You make a very good point here, and I say this as a STH who occasionally had to stump up for family to attend in my (son's) place.
The club are definitely putting STH tickets back on sale if the owner is deemed not to be using the ticket enough.
I’m aware of one fan who couldn’t travel to Ajax, due to medical reasons. The club wouldn’t refund him but resold the ticket anyway. So, they sold the same seat twice.
Wrong on all counts.
I’m aware of one fan who couldn’t travel to Ajax, due to medical reasons. The club wouldn’t refund him but resold the ticket anyway. So, they sold the same seat twice.
Wrong on all counts.
Kalimantan Gull
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You're surprised games are moved for TV?
This is our 8th season in the Premier league, it's not new. Why are you still buying a season ticket if you can't make rearranged games?
Kalimantan Gull
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Better than having the seat empty for such a big game, surely?
And I don't think you can promise refunds if people can't go, or everybody in category 1 would just buy a ticket and then decide later if they can actually make it to Amsterdam. That route would be chaos, a ticket could end up being sold and resold multiple times. I don't know if these were etickets or paper tickets, but either way it's a lot of admin. Meanwhile the people ìn cat 2 who eventually get the tickets would face increased plane or hotel fares, or just no availability. That's not fair on them.
When you buy concert tickets you can purchase insurance to get a refund if you can't go for health reasons, I don't know if this is offered with these tickets, or whether clubs regularly in Europe do this, but it could be a way to go in future.