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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
It says in there....

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So, the simple answer is to get rid of regulation 31 now we're not bound by them. Hey presto - no need to test in the first place, so the problem goes away........
And cholera takes its place.
 
















nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,711
Gods country fortnightly
Common sense.
Its more cordial which is nice and will be good for security cooperation

But lets not kid ourselves, our trading relationship is weaker than Turkey, adjustments will be minor and the hard Brexit still isn't fully applied.

Labour have stupidly boxed themselves into a corner and we will all continue to pay the price for being a less trade intensive nation
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,953
Withdean area
Its more cordial which is nice and will be good for security cooperation

But lets not kid ourselves, our trading relationship is weaker than Turkey, adjustments will be minor and the hard Brexit still isn't fully applied.

Labour have stupidly boxed themselves into a corner and we will all pay for it.

I'm grateful for small mercies at this stage. And relieved where's there's no bitching about our neighbours.
 
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BBassic

I changed this.
Jul 28, 2011
13,202
Bloody Labour, joining forces with our arch-nemesis to combat a problem directly caused by Brexit.


Germany will tighten its law to make it easier to prosecute those helping to smuggle migrants to the UK, as part of a new plan agreed between the two countries.

Facilitating people-smuggling is not technically illegal in Germany currently, if it is to a third country outside the EU - which, following Brexit, includes the UK.

Under the new agreement, the Home Office says Germany has pledged to make the activity a clear criminal offence.
 


Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,317
Farage running away from Brexit again on BBC QT...
I just watched this on iPlayer. It was not what I was expecting.

Given it was coming from Lincoln, near the Brexit heartland of Boston, I was expecting some members of the audience to give Farage vocal support and loud applause, but his comments all night barely elicited even polite applause.

Contract this with arch-Remainer Alistair Campbell who received much applause, including his anti-Brexit comments.

I thought Farage was very complacent with the "We won, you lost, get over it, move on" mantra. He doesn't understand that you can't "move on" if your economy is 5% smaller and the govenment can't afford basic stuff, such that they resort to raiding pensioners and screwing employers.

Farage needs to work far harder on getting his message across about how there ARE alternative Brexit policies that will make the UK economy stronger. It need to get 5% stronger just to return to the point in 2016 when he said we needed Brexit because our economy wasn't strong enough then. Until he does that Reform will be just be a one-issue party - immigration.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,711
Gods country fortnightly
I just watched this on iPlayer. It was not what I was expecting.

Given it was coming from Lincoln, near the Brexit heartland of Boston, I was expecting some members of the audience to give Farage vocal support and loud applause, but his comments all night barely elicited even polite applause.

Contract this with arch-Remainer Alistair Campbell who received much applause, including his anti-Brexit comments.

I thought Farage was very complacent with the "We won, you lost, get over it, move on" mantra. He doesn't understand that you can't "move on" if your economy is 5% smaller and the govenment can't afford basic stuff, such that they resort to raiding pensioners and screwing employers.

Farage needs to work far harder on getting his message across about how there ARE alternative Brexit policies that will make the UK economy stronger. It need to get 5% stronger just to return to the point in 2016 when he said we needed Brexit because our economy wasn't strong enough then. Until he does that Reform will be just be a one-issue party - immigration.
I have a member of family who's usually a bit of a Farage fanboy, but he thought Campbell had the better of him.

Farage's appeal has a ceiling, its a question of what the Tories do in future.
 








Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,472
If I understand correctly, by leaving the EU, Brexit - de-criminalised - people smuggling from anywhere in the EU to Britain?

So Brexit was doomed to make people smuggling into Britain worse, not better then?
I'm quite sure that's right....
 




Eric the meek

Fiveways Wilf
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Aug 24, 2020
7,466
I'm quite sure that's right....
There's a question that puzzles me.

Why did no-one in the EU negotiating team alert our merry band of Brexit negotiators to this small detail?
I find it difficult to believe that it never cropped up in the formal negotiations, or over a good dinner afterwards.

The likely answer is that it did, but that our negotiators decided to ignore it.
 


Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
14,669
Cumbria
There's a question that puzzles me.

Why did no-one in the EU negotiating team alert our merry band of Brexit negotiators to this small detail?
I find it difficult to believe that it never cropped up in the formal negotiations, or over a good dinner afterwards.

The likely answer is that it did, but that our negotiators decided to ignore it.
I am sure they must have known.
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,434
Another Brexit mess up.....

Brexiters, please explain when you first knew this?


Another rather neat answer to the 'why don't they stay in France question?'

Because YOU voted to decriminalise coming to a non EU country.

Why are Brexiters non rioting on the streets, or rether why did they choose to burn down places where the government housed asylum seekers instead of processing them and not the houses of Farage, Boris etc etc?
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,434
Another Brexit mess up.....

Brexiters, please explain when you first knew this?

Who are you asking?? All those loud voices in passionate favour of Brexit are long gone. Hardly surprising even they can't defend the indefensible.

And who wants to hang around and take their medicine when it all turns to shit.

I expect the answer though is either 'we didn't know because our Brexit leaders didn't tell us' or 'project fear'.
 




Eric the meek

Fiveways Wilf
NSC Patron
Aug 24, 2020
7,466
Imagine.

Imagine a scenario, that when the Tories learned that Brexit would de-criminalise the people smugglers, they opted to not share that information with the country. To not share the inevitable conclusion that Brexit would therefore increase illegal immigration into Britain. The very opposite of what they had told the country what would happen.

Imagine that they did nothing about it, and still went ahead with Brexit.

And then, when the small boats became an embarrassment, they then misled the British public, for a second time, with their flagship 'stop the boats' campaign. In the full knowledge that it was their own fault.

There is a real possibility that this account of events is real.
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,434
Imagine.

Imagine a scenario, that when the Tories learned that Brexit would de-criminalise the people smugglers, they opted to not share that information with the country. To not share the inevitable conclusion that Brexit would therefore increase illegal immigration into Britain. The very opposite of what they had told the country what would happen.

Imagine that they did nothing about it, and still went ahead with Brexit.

And then, when the small boats became an embarrassment, they then misled the British public, for a second time, with their flagship 'stop the boats' campaign. In the full knowledge that it was their own fault.

There is a real possibility that this account of events is real.

Imagine that those who were misled then rioted, smashed up their towns and tried to burn down the sites that the government used to to house all the asylum seekers from the increased baot trips they refused to process.
 


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