nicko31
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Its pretty standard, there were lots of £17k's under the Tories.
But TBH, we've got more important things to worry about
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But TBH, we've got more important things to worry about
nevergoagain
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It wasn't a go at labour it was a comment on awful parliamentary rules. Easy cost saving to just do away with it.
dsr-burnley
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- Aug 15, 2014
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It depends how you do it. If you lose your phone and claim it was stolen from your car when you left it unlocked, then no. (Apart from anything else, that could be put down to a mistake, as long as you don't repeat it.) But if you invent a fake mugging and report it to the police, then yes, you get (or ought to get) a conviction for fraud, and for wasting police time as well (though I think she got away with that one).
One thing to learn from watching Colombo, where the murderer tells such a complicated tale that they are bound to trip up. If lying is your thing, then keep your lies simple.
You probably need to be careful accusing her on a publicly accessible forum of inventing a fake mugging. Not sure that's been reported anywhere? - so is potentially libellous.
PascalGroß Tips
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- Jan 29, 2024
- 704
At least she should be able to afford a few new phones with her ‘bonus’ cash.
dsr-burnley
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- Aug 15, 2014
- 2,687
I had misunderstood that part of the story. I thought the whole thing was a lie, not just the phone theft. It appears there is no doubt that she was mugged. Thanks for the heads-up.
And for those of you worried about these things, here's some good news that I don't think got much coverage recently:
The anti-immigration offensive of Britain’s Labour government has seen a record number of deportations of asylum seekers since it came to power in July.
Home Office data reveals that 9,400 people have been deported to their home countries since then
UK Labour government sets asylum seeker deportations record
Including mass deportation flights to Nigeria and Ghana, the Labour government has organised what the right-wing press are hailing as the “three biggest returns flights in UK history.”www.wsws.org
And if you prefer your news from GBeebies, here you go:
Nearly 10,000 migrants deported since election as Starmer organises three BIGGEST return flights ever
More than 25 further bespoke returns flights have also taken placewww.gbnews.com
Rdodge30
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- Dec 30, 2022
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I wonder what the views of the usual suspects on NSC are regarding the extraordinary success of the Labour Government with deportations?
Given that before the election almost anyone on this site who raised their head above the parapet on the subject was hounded back to the wordle and best song threads under accusations of xenophobia.
Now it turns out that literally the only thing the Labour Government has done successfully is deport people !
Given that before the election almost anyone on this site who raised their head above the parapet on the subject was hounded back to the wordle and best song threads under accusations of xenophobia.
Now it turns out that literally the only thing the Labour Government has done successfully is deport people !
I was thinking the same, well played Labour for the apparent high volumes of ‘arrivals’ deported, absolute back of the net, let’s hope there wasn’t any healthcare professionals that were sent back
nicko31
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50 Rwanda's clearly isn't enough for you
Rdodge30
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- Dec 30, 2022
- 772
Net migration is at unsustainable levels.
One of the main reasons- if not the main reason- for the defection of Conservative voters in the election was that the conservatives were perceived as weak on immigration.
The Labour peers repeatedly blocked all Conservative immigration legislation.
It felt like most if not all NSCers were completely against deportation- although I accept it was a very vocal few.
Now the Labour Party is the party of deportation… I wonder what the usual suspects think, because by any standards 10,000 since the election is a huge number, especially for a Government that don’t seem to be able to put one foot in front of the other.
Are you really sure about that?
Lords divided on Illegal Migration Bill
The Illegal Migration Bill was met with criticism from Conservative peers during its second reading in the House of Lords this month.
www.lawsociety.org.uk
The Lords were mainly against legislation that was unlawful, rather than all legislation. And given the majority in the House of Commons, anything the Tories really wanted to get through they could have done - if they had voted for it themselves.
Rdodge30
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- Dec 30, 2022
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Today SKS announces his Government’s Plan for Change and the 5 missions become 6 pledges.
Polling guru Sir John Curtice has warned that Sir Keir’s government has “hit significant political trouble rather early on in its life”, adding that “the fundamental question is whether a politician who has shown so far absolutely no ability to construct a narrative can suddenly construct a narrative”.
“I presume part of the idea of ‘plan for change’ is that because all they had to say during the election was ‘change’ and that is all they campaigned on, they now have to be a bit more specific on what kind of change they have in mind – which was an obvious gap six months ago.”
Polling guru Sir John Curtice has warned that Sir Keir’s government has “hit significant political trouble rather early on in its life”, adding that “the fundamental question is whether a politician who has shown so far absolutely no ability to construct a narrative can suddenly construct a narrative”.
“I presume part of the idea of ‘plan for change’ is that because all they had to say during the election was ‘change’ and that is all they campaigned on, they now have to be a bit more specific on what kind of change they have in mind – which was an obvious gap six months ago.”
I guess my perspective on that is that after 13 years of Governments making promise after promise after promise after promise and delivering on virtually nothing other than a botched version of Brexit, I don't have a real issue with any Government taking it's time to choose it's path. After all, it's difficult to know exactly how to fix a problem when you can't see how bad that actual is until you open the front door.
Regarding your earlier point on deportations, my issue was never that I was "against deportations", it was the cruel lack of coherent process that I had issue with. People sitting in camps, never being processed was a disgrace. I always argued that the last Governement had it in their best interests to NOT fix the issue, because it's the only thing that united their voters.
The wordle and best song threads are hotbeds of racism.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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For me the debate often ended in an agreement that the best way foreword for asylum seekers was to proceess refugee applications, grant asylum to those deserving of it and deport those that were not.
My assumption is that these deportations are the result of the processing of applications.
Job done, hopefully labour will now work their way through the backlog and stop the overspend on housing asylum seekers.
Jobs a good un, it's not that hard if you are not trying to weaponsise the situations to get votes.
Super Steve Earle
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Leave my best song thread out of this. I once posted a song by Al Green.
Rdodge30
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- Dec 30, 2022
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I don’t either, to a certain extent. My comments on the current Government are commentary not judgement. However it does feel exactly how Sir John Curtice has put it- similar to the views of some of us on here pre election- that they were simply for change and change alone but with no clear definition of what that would be.
Right Brain Ronnie
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Oh Lammy, still out of touch and out of his depth. Cooper clearly isn't in touch either.
You don't know what your doing spring to mind.
You don't know what your doing spring to mind.
