GoldstoneVintage
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You're most welcome and thanks for your tip. My favourites were the Timothy Snyder books. A brilliant historian and genuine expert in that part of the world.
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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
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- Nov 11, 2009
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More about USA than Russia/Ukraine, but Snyders latest substack is chilling.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Lots of activity in Russia overnight, in Briyansk, Tula, Belgorod, Voronezh and Rostov. At least 8 Atacms said to have been used with 2 shot down. Azov South twitter.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Chilling is the right description.More about USA than Russia/Ukraine, but Snyders latest substack is chilling.
I suspect we only know about a subset of the Russian hybrid war on the west. There is going to be a lot we don't know, and a lot that people are afraid to voice for fear of being ridiculed.
- Jan 18, 2009
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I never suggested it was fine and dandy I asked if it was genuinely being crippled by sanctions?
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Putin’s best weapon to pay for the Ukraine war is not oil; it's VAT
Sanctions on Russia are barking up the wrong tree. The Kremlin’s Achilles’ heel is not its dependence on oil export revenue. Russian President ...
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More importantly applying sanctions are not a one way street, whilst Russians enjoy rock bottom energy prices in the virtuous UK our prices are in the top 10 internationally for being expensive. That is a factor crippling our economy, and why for example, the U.K. now produces less steel domestically than Egypt.
Furthermore, if you really want sanctions to work then we should be heading down the US route, OFAC have sanctioned more than HMT have, and HMT have sanctioned more than the EU have.
Russian Aluminium is a good example, the UK and US have banned imports, the US can source elsewhere, we have essentially ceased to be a manufacturing power that needs vast quantities of it.
The EU not so and whilst Aluminium imports into the EU have dropped the reality is industrially the EU cannot operate without it as it cannot be sourced as cheaply elsewhere. Economically, the EU would be crippled if you like.
- Jan 18, 2009
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Yeah, on the other hand the UK’s economic miracle is delivering record levels of taxation and taking benefits from pensioners while we continue to bankroll Ukraine. Keep on drinking the Kool aid.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Did you actually look at the MOEX and see that it is a sea of red, not just yesterday, but over the past year?
No, of course you didn't.
The sanctions are working. Sure Russia has done what it can to get round them.
Yes fair enough. Russia fights on, so I wouldn't say it's crippled, but their economy is struggling.
We've been closing our steel industry. Do we need to produce steel?
I'm not sure what you're referring to here, we haven't been a manufacturing power for a long time.
What record levels of taxation are you referring to?
Russia are attacking democracy in Europe, and you want us to do nothing about it? I want us to support a democratic country in Europe which is defending itself from an evil dictator, and you think that stance is drinking kool aid
fly high
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There are times you really wish the thumbs down was still available. Come on Russia, so we can all be rich again.
Blues Guitarist
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Good point
Guardian reporting UK Storm Shadow missiles have been fired at targets within Russia for the first time
- Aug 24, 2020
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This might be rather significant.
I don't 100%.
I realise this isn't the most mature or considered response, but in this particular case I don't give a shit what European countries think.
Why? We don't need the agreement of a single European country. We're allowed to supply weapons to other countries to defend themselves against invasion.