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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)







Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Goldstone
My ambition is to get one on the forum before the war ends. Wish me luck.

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Eric the meek

Fiveways Wilf
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Aug 24, 2020
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Applications are invited for the following positions on the Russia invades Ukraine thread:

Expert - Russian invasions. Must have relevant experience in a) being Russian or b) invading neighbouring countries. Misplaced arrogance and brutality a bonus.
Expert - Ukraine. Must have married a Ukrainian woman (the circumstances of your meeting will never be divulged or discussed).
Expert - Military strategist. Must have military experience or be convincing enough to get away with it.
Expert - Collapse of Russian economy. This position is unlikely to appeal to real economists.
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Neither have I. I was just responding to someone else's post with a possible answer. Speculation like, you know?

Yeah I'm not complaining. I'm getting the impression that the large majority of missiles got through. I'm guessing that's as expected. So my (further) speculation is that that number were fired either because

a) there were several sections to the compound that needed to be hit
b) some reinforced areas of the compound required more than one hit to do the required damage
c) the target was such a high priority that extra missiles were used to be sure of success
 




seagullwedgee

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Aug 9, 2005
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For Russia to say it shot down 6 of 8 Storm Shadow missiles is ludicrous. These missiles contain signal scrambling invisibility capability and can be programmed accurate to 11 feet, so this was a known target scale of intelligence and it was clearly obliterated. The video shows 5 separate distinct hits here alone, and there is only the ATACMS or Storm Shadow that have that reach.
 


Cotton Socks

Skint Supporter
Feb 20, 2017
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Applications are invited for the following positions on the Russia invades Ukraine thread:

Expert - Russian invasions. Must have relevant experience in a) being Russian or b) invading neighbouring countries. Misplaced arrogance and brutality a bonus.
Expert - Ukraine. Must have married a Ukrainian woman (the circumstances of your meeting will never be divulged or discussed).
Expert - Military strategist. Must have military experience or be convincing enough to get away with it.
Expert - Collapse of Russian economy. This position is unlikely to appeal to real economists.
I'd like to nominate myself as Expert Reader of Thread - My qualifications are reading but sometimes not understanding what you're all talking about, then clicking on links that are provided which generally explain things (sometimes I do have to Google though).
It is an unbalanced thread though as there doesn't seem to be anyone saying why it's perfectly acceptable to invade another country, kill thousands of civilians, forcibly remove thousands of kids & take them to another country. Indiscriminately bomb shopping centres, hospitals & a bit of rape & torture etc. Oh on 2nd thoughts someone is trying to balance it out by wittering on about UK taxation so I'm soon to become an expert with the scroll bar. ;)
I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates the info you all put on here, so thanks. (y)
 


jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
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Oct 17, 2008
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Is anyone else getting genuinely worried about nuclear Armageddon? Because I am, a bit. I know Putin has been threatening this forever, but it’s never felt this real. British missiles being used to attack Russia is scary.

All kinds of scenarios playing through my mind, we’re a much softer target than the US, would they back us up if we suffered a direct nuclear hit? What about the Europe we shunned? Knowing the state of Trident with most of them out of commission all the time, would we even have the ability to respond in a timely fashion?

Why do Russia have to be such ****s?
 






Eric the meek

Fiveways Wilf
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Aug 24, 2020
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Is anyone else getting genuinely worried about nuclear Armageddon? Because I am, a bit. I know Putin has been threatening this forever, but it’s never felt this real. British missiles being used to attack Russia is scary.

All kinds of scenarios playing through my mind, we’re a much softer target than the US, would they back us up if we suffered a direct nuclear hit? What about the Europe we shunned? Knowing the state of Trident with most of them out of commission all the time, would we even have the ability to respond in a timely fashion?

Why do Russia have to be such ****s?
None of us can see into the future. We can only guess.

Remember we are in Nato. Any strike on a Nato country will elicit a commensurate response. That is the deterrent.

Will it work with Putin ? Well it has so far. So, probably, yes. And he now knows, if he didn't already, that his air defences will not stop modern western missiles.

There is no guarantee though. That's the nature of it.
 


crookie

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Jun 14, 2013
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Back in Sussex
Was the C&C bunker for the Kursk region. Likely holding hundreds of staff officers including Senior NK officers according to Forbes, so a very high profile and prized target. Wonder how many Storm Shadows they now have left. Each SU 24 only takes 2, so a big commitment of the Ukrainian Air Force as well
 






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