[Politics] The Labour Government

dsr-burnley said:

I agree. Even if the UK spent close to 2% of the gross national income on ending slavery throughout the world. the people whose distant ancestors were slaves would still be demanding more. We know that, because that's what the British Empire did in the first half of the 19th century, not only to abolish slavery in the Empire, but also around the world.

We should apologise to any surviving slaves and perhaps their children, but the rest is history.

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Chicken Run said:

What are Gen X’s like, do you recruit in that age group?

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Chicken Run said:

What are Gen X’s like, do you recruit in that age group?

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Commander said:

I disagree. It can do, but it can also do the opposite. I've interviewed so many Grads and said "Why did you go to Uni, and why did you choose to study xxx?" A large proportion of them pretty much say they didn't know what else to do. Staying in education is the easy option for many people.

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Curious Orange said:

From a British point of view slavery was abolished 1807, and the final slaves in the colonies were freed in 1838. Good luck finding anyone to apologise to.

There is nobody alive today who can demonstrate that their life is worse because of the trans-Atlantic slave trade, which the British Empire forced an end to by going against the international law of the time by using the Royal Navy to physically intervene and stop it.

So, I'm with Starmer, better to help deal with the real problems of now.

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Herr Tubthumper said:

I guess I fall into this category. The sole reason I went to university was to move to London. When I was 15 I visited an older friend at uni in the smoke and liked the idea the government would pay for me to move to there; they'd fund my accomodation and give me spending money. Bingo! I only chose my subject because it was the one I was best at and therefore gave me the best chance of getting to London. When I graduated I had no idea what I wanted to do either. That said, I did apply myself; I had to. There is no way I could learn new things and get a decent grade. This must also be the case for most people?

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Herr Tubthumper said:

I guess I fall into this category. The sole reason I went to university was to move to London. When I was 15 I visited an older friend at uni in the smoke and liked the idea the government would pay for me to move to there; they'd fund my accomodation and give me spending money. Bingo! I only chose my subject because it was the one I was best at and therefore gave me the best chance of getting to London. When I graduated I had no idea what I wanted to do either. That said, I did apply myself; I had to. There is no way I could learn new things and get a decent grade. This must also be the case for most people?

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Curious Orange said:

From a British point of view slavery was abolished 1807, and the final slaves in the colonies were freed in 1838. Good luck finding anyone to apologise to.

There is nobody alive today who can demonstrate that their life is worse because of the trans-Atlantic slave trade, which the British Empire forced an end to by going against the international law of the time by using the Royal Navy to physically intervene and stop it.

So, I'm with Starmer, better to help deal with the real problems of now.

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Titanic said:

Rachel Reeves: Chancellor changes debt rules to release billions

Reeves has said the government will change these rules to free up billions for spending on big projects.

www.bbc.co.uk

Or maybe that should say: Chancellor changes the rules so she can spend shitloads of money we don't have.

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beorhthelm said:

that's a good point. i believe GDP per capita in Caribbean is higher than most African nations, so arguable they are better off. the notion of reparation is so fraught with problems, who'd be eligable, who'd pay, i'm convinced it's only raised by people who want to stir up contention.

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Chicken Run said:

You see the Conservative Government wasn’t all bad HT

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Titanic said:

Rachel Reeves: Chancellor changes debt rules to release billions

Reeves has said the government will change these rules to free up billions for spending on big projects.

www.bbc.co.uk

Or maybe that should say: Chancellor changes the rules so she can spend shitloads of money we don't have.

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The Tories have always borrowed more than Labour, and always repaid less: they are the party of big deficit spending

It is often suggested that Labour is profligate and the Tories are the naturally ‘safe pair of hands’ when it comes to running the economy. The Tories, it is presumed, do not borrow as much as Labour. This is a hypothesis I have tested before. I thought it time to...

www.taxresearch.org.uk

Commander said:

I think that's a perfectly good reason for going to Uni. But I don't think it shows that you were somebody who would apply yourself- the fact that you did isn't necessarily relevant to the fact that you went.

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Titanic said:

Beloved is stretching it... and this is about the Labour Party. Can you imagine the furore from the opposition benches if the Tories had moved the goalposts like this?

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Curious Orange said:

From a British point of view slavery was abolished 1807, and the final slaves in the colonies were freed in 1838. Good luck finding anyone to apologise to.

There is nobody alive today who can demonstrate that their life is worse because of the trans-Atlantic slave trade, which the British Empire forced an end to by going against the international law of the time by using the Royal Navy to physically intervene and stop it.

So, I'm with Starmer, better to help deal with the real problems of now.

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Herr Tubthumper said:

I agree. The simple act of going to university isn’t a marker for applying oneself, I saw plenty of slackers. Coming out the other end with a decent qualification is though. You need to apply yourself to get a half decent grade.

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Herr Tubthumper said:

I can’t speak for the benches BUT I can tell you I have always been a fan of borrowing to fund infrastructure investment. If you scroll through this site you’ll find posts from me criticizing Cameron and Osborne for wasting an opportunity and not spending during the credit crunch.

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