[Misc] Weight loss jabs - Mounjaro, Wegovy etc.

wehatepalace said:

Update, just onto my third jab, so 3 weeks in, weighed myself and now lost 12lb
Appetite much much lower, been up since 2.30 this morning to drop my daughter to Heathrow and I’ve just made myself eat something……possibly the longest I’ve ever gone without food

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Professor Plum said:

Good for you. Did you find that food noise/suppression kicked in immediately or did it take a few days? I know it varies from one person to the next so it’s of no great significance but am just curious. I’ll be starting today or tomorrow.

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Titanic said:

Would I get the same results if I could summon up the willpower to eat a lot less... or do these jabs somehow accelerate weight loss?

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Titanic said:

Would I get the same results if I could summon up the willpower to eat a lot less... or do these jabs somehow accelerate weight loss?

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Professor Plum said:

Yes, you’d get the same results if you ate a lot less. If you find that easy to do over a long period, that’s the way to go.

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

I have found the only way I can lose weight is via anxiety (which is something that affects me greatly).

I have found that when I don't drink booze (several days a week - which is admittedly a relatively new thing) I put on weight (I weigh myself daily - a neurodiversity thing), presumably because I snack more, and drink liters of fruit juice.

I've been off the ciggies fully (was largely fully) for quite a while now, and packing that in triggered a weight gain.

The weight has been steady, perhaps down a couple of kilos, for about 4 years. But stress and anxiety are a massive problem, I have come to realize (once my chronic gut issues were identified as not due to a gut problem but more likely to anxiety).

Sometimes you just can't win.

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

I have found the only way I can lose weight is via anxiety (which is something that affects me greatly).

I have found that when I don't drink booze (several days a week - which is admittedly a relatively new thing) I put on weight (I weigh myself daily - a neurodiversity thing), presumably because I snack more, and drink liters of fruit juice.

I've been off the ciggies fully (was largely fully) for quite a while now, and packing that in triggered a weight gain.

The weight has been steady, perhaps down a couple of kilos, for about 4 years. But stress and anxiety are a massive problem, I have come to realize (once my chronic gut issues were identified as not due to a gut problem but more likely to anxiety).

Sometimes you just can't win.

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Weststander said:

We all have our vices.

I suppose, minimise it to those which do least damage, meaning you’re be around for your loved ones for much longer.

Well done for packing in the cigarettes, literally a killer, I lost family in their 50’s to the f@ckers.

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Half Time Pies said:

What happens after you have finished the injections and have lost the weight? How do people keep the weight off?

I have tried many diets over the years, the last time it was the fast 800 and I lost 2 stone in 12 weeks. After I finished I felt great and everyone was giving me compliments, I was full of praise about the fast 800 and recommended it to friends. This is the problem with diets, many of the extreme ones do work well and people are doing them when their motivation levels are high and they don't mind spending the money, willpower and time on them if its only going to be for a short period of time. They tell everyone they know how much they have lost and put pictures all over social media. What people don't see is what happens to them over the next 6/8/12 months and if they put the weight back on!

For me after the diet finished all the old habits came back , I developed a hernia so couldn't exercise and before I knew it I had put all they weight back on and bit more for good measure! In my opinion if you can't eat healthy and exercise before you try an extreme diet, is very unlikely that you will be able to do it after you have finished the diet.

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wehatepalace said:

Update, just onto my third jab, so 3 weeks in, weighed myself and now lost 12lb
Appetite much much lower, been up since 2.30 this morning to drop my daughter to Heathrow and I’ve just made myself eat something……possibly the longest I’ve ever gone without food

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cloud said:

It could be that going without food that has helped with the weight loss.

For anyone wanting to lose weight without drugs, a combination of 1) intermittent fasting (e.g. eat within a 10 hour window each day), 2) eating 30g fibre a day, and 3) max 1250 calories per day will result in healthy and fairly fast weight loss.

Eating 30g fibre per day will make you feel full and suppress your appetite by increasing levels of GLP-1 (glucagen-like peptide), which is effectively what the weight loss drugs do. A high fibre diet will also reduce glucose spikes and inflammation, which is better for both mental and physical health.

Finally, making your first meal of the day savoury rather than sweet will reduce food cravings during the day.

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cloud said:

It could be that going without food that has helped with the weight loss.

For anyone wanting to lose weight without drugs, a combination of 1) intermittent fasting (e.g. eat within a 10 hour window each day), 2) eating 30g fibre a day, and 3) max 1250 calories per day will result in healthy and fairly fast weight loss.

Eating 30g fibre per day will make you feel full and suppress your appetite by increasing levels of GLP-1 (glucagen-like peptide), which is effectively what the weight loss drugs do. A high fibre diet will also reduce glucose spikes and inflammation, which is better for both mental and physical health.

Finally, making your first meal of the day savoury rather than sweet will reduce food cravings during the day.

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Titanic said:

Salty porridge it is then

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Half Time Pies said:

What happens after you have finished the injections and have lost the weight? How do people keep the weight off?

I have tried many diets over the years, the last time it was the fast 800 and I lost 2 stone in 12 weeks. After I finished I felt great and everyone was giving me compliments, I was full of praise about the fast 800 and recommended it to friends. This is the problem with diets, many of the extreme ones do work well and people are doing them when their motivation levels are high and they don't mind spending the money, willpower and time on them if its only going to be for a short period of time. They tell everyone they know how much they have lost and put pictures all over social media. What people don't see is what happens to them over the next 6/8/12 months and if they put the weight back on!

For me after the diet finished all the old habits came back , I developed a hernia so couldn't exercise and before I knew it I had put all they weight back on and bit more for good measure! In my opinion if you can't eat healthy and exercise before you try an extreme diet, is very unlikely that you will be able to do it after you have finished the diet.

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SkirlieWirlie said:

The book I mentioned in post #52 talks to this in detail. The Dr who wrote the book has been treating patients for obesity through surgical procedures for many years and a very high level summary of his view is that in effect starving your body for weeks or months will result in a physical rebound when you start to reintroduce foods that you've excluded during that time and in fact your body will go into the reverse of 'starvation mode' to restock it's fat reserves. I think this is where some of his observations and theories come in rather than 100% study based.

But, I think the key is about reducing calorie intake, eating healthy foods (this includes fats, as well as protein and carbohydrates), which will stabilise blood sugars, reduced spikes, etc so when you start to increase your intake once you've hit the weight you're aiming for, it minimises any negative rebound.

It's about making permanent lifestyle changes , not short term fad diets to lose weight as quickly as possible. Slow reductions over time much more sustainable and I suspect better for your overall body and health too.

Edit: I find this subject fascinating and wish it had been a thing when I was about to leave secondary school that I could have chosen as a career. A lot of the nutritional advice disseminated by governments worldwide for over 50 years is based on 'scientific studies' paid for by sugar companies in the 50's demonising fat to deflect from the damage done by their product.

My diet now is much higher in fat than it used to be, but good fats (olive oil, nuts, seeds, oily fish, etc) but good for health and reducing hunger too.

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Half Time Pies said:

I didn't have time to read the whole thread so I missed that. For me the biggest problem is that a lot of the diet industry ignores the fact that for many people there is an emotional element to overeating and for some this can even develop in to a addiction as powerful and difficult to overcome as alcohol, gambling or drug addictions. For example I just saw @Thunder Bolt mentioned the fast 800 prescription for continuing to maintain weight as fasting at 5/2 on an ongoing basis, I tried that but had zero chance of maintaining it on a ongoing basis because of my relationship with food, I have a busy life, have ADHD, forget to eat, grab food on the run, I turn to food for comfort when I'm stressed and use it to bump my dopamine levels when I am tired and my motivation is low. The chance of me also sticking to a 5/2 fasting diet during periods like Christmas or holidays when the temptation to overeat is much higher is probably close to zero. I think some of the diet programmes offered by NHS are now catching on to this and provide behavioural and lifestyle support along with the usual advice on what and what not to eat.

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

There has been a glut of chat about these drugs on R5 today. The message seems to be these drugs are great for the obese with diabetes.

I won't be taking them. Yet.

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