[Albion] I think i love that from Hurzeler

Kalimantan Gull

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Shaktarman said:

I’m still not fully convinced by him tbh. Got a bit lucky first half. The line was ridiculous v Chelsea and Spurs. But glad he had the nerve to completely change it today at the same time. Want him to learn quickly whilst still picking up results, so happy overall.

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Give me lucky generals, eh?!

I believe we have to give managers time to try things out and make mistakes. That was my thinking for the first half hour of the game. At the end I think he got it spot on.

But the original thought is important. We are so obsessed with individual game results in England that young managers rarely have the space or time to try things out or experiment. Bloom seems an exception. We can remember Potters false nine, didn't work, but he was given the space to try it. That's so important for a young manager who is developing in the game.

 

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Justice said:

Jesus give him a chance 8 games in and if results had gone our way against Ipswich & Forest we would be top of the league.

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I am giving him a chance. Just saying I’m not convinced by him yet. It’s called an opinion.

 

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Shaktarman said:

I am giving him a chance. Just saying I’m not convinced by him yet. It’s called an opinion.

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Yep. And what is the saying? Every asshole has one. Wait, that might not be right.

 

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Dick Swiveller said:

Yep. And what is the saying? Every asshole has one. Wait, that might not be right.

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Sorry I won’t offer any on this message board again in case it goes against the majority

 

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Littlemo said:

I’m going to get rinsed for this but I miss RDZ and DeZerbiball. Obviously delighted we won but it’s not nearly as good to watch.

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Yes, I agree, but the second half of last season once we were out of Europe spoke volumes. We were in relegation form from Februray onwards.

 

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We will see the true hurzeler team nearer the end of the season. With the amount of new players that have come in it takes time. You can see that in our performances, very up and down in games. Over time it should smoothen out when the players are more used to their new surroundings and hurzelers ideas.

 

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HCxUK said:

'We got smashed against Chelsea and learned from it'

edit: 1:50ish if you can't be arsed to watch the whole thing

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Can’t believe Fab has directly started trolling GPotts, multiple mentions of suffering and the trademark teeth suck

 

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Littlemo said:

I’m going to get rinsed for this but I miss RDZ and DeZerbiball. Obviously delighted we won but it’s not nearly as good to watch.

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Yesterday’s man.

 

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HCxUK said:

Fair enough, but I personally loved it - all about the result, and the graft and teamwork to get there. We won't set up like that very often, but the fact we can do it is a lovely string to our bow

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This.

It's even what Arsenal have being doing this season in select games.

FH got it spot on

 

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I love that he said, "we got smashed by Chelsea..." Refreshingly honest.

 

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Littlemo said:

I’m going to get rinsed for this but I miss RDZ and DeZerbiball. Obviously delighted we won but it’s not nearly as good to watch.

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Nah, it’s WBG you miss Littlemo, not RDZ

 

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HCxUK said:

Fair enough, but I personally loved it - all about the result, and the graft and teamwork to get there. We won't set up like that very often, but the fact we can do it is a lovely string to our bow

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Precisely this.

 

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Barticulate

 

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Littlemo said:

I’m going to get rinsed for this but I miss RDZ and DeZerbiball. Obviously delighted we won but it’s not nearly as good to watch.

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Was you feeling like this come 90 mins against spurs? It's going to take time for Fabs style of play to bed in. DeZerbiball was great when RDZ was happy. DeZerbiball was not so good when things didn't go his way I.e. second half of last season.

 

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Potter and RDZ were mostly about systems. Hurzeler is mostly about results.

That’s not to FH doesn’t have a system nor that GP and RDZ didn’t get results but the priority seems to have switched. I’m all for it.

 

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I maybe wouldn't go quite that far, as it relied a lot on Verbruggen the last hour. But the second half tactics were exceptional. Great subs!

 

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Justice said:

Jesus give him a chance 8 games in and if results had gone our way against Ipswich & Forest we would be top of the league.

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We would be second

 

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Guinness Boy said:

Potter and RDZ were mostly about systems. Hurzeler is mostly about results.

That’s not to FH doesn’t have a system nor that GP and RDZ didn’t get results but the priority seems to have switched. I’m all for it.

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Exactly this .

We just had to hang in there and get a bit lucky

Second half the changes and preserving the goal advantage was nothing we’ve seen under rdz

 

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Napper said:

Exactly this .

We just had to hang in there and get a bit lucky

Second half the changes and preserving the goal advantage was nothing we’ve seen under rdz

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In general you’re right but, ironically, the outlier with RDZ is Newcastle. Last season, with a tired and injury battered squad, we played a lower line, longer balls and used Enciso to drive at them and beat individual players.

It was only a 1-1 of course but everyone travelling expected a defeat.

Many saying Howe should have got England instead of Tuchel but we’ve outsmarted him twice in two games at home.

 

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Littlemo said:

I’m going to get rinsed for this but I miss RDZ and DeZerbiball. Obviously delighted we won but it’s not nearly as good to watch.

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We all did - until we got found out. Unfortunately the last four months of his tenure were awful. The difference is Fab has a Plan A, B and C .