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[News] Hurricane Milton, Florida



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Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Winds in Faversham have now reached over 7,000 miles per hour.

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Scenes of devastation here.

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Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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Forecasts I saw on their TV last night said 6’, possibly 10’ max.

6’ would be devastating for the low lying state.
All the newscasts I've seen, the person behind the mike was in water only up to his/her ankles.

But then, would they have risked drowning or electrocution to bring a landmark broadcast to the American people?
 




Zeberdi

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Oct 20, 2022
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yeah, it is going to turn into a bit a storm in a teacup by the end of tomorrow.
You may think a Cat 2/3 is a ‘storm in a teacup’ but the people that have lost everything, including loved ones and pets in this storm won’t think that.
I was obviously making light of the situation, but in all fairness why move, build or live somewhere like these areas when events like this are pretty much a common occurrence, surely you take this into account, buyer beware.
I (like other NSC members probably) have family living in Huston that was devastated by Hurricane Harvey, I also have family living in Atlanta Georgia that was impacted by extreme flooding and loss of life from Helene. Are you suggesting people should not live and work in Florida or Georgia? Or Texas? People do live with the risk because more often than not have to - but they have lived with hurricanes for years and are hardened to them - you don’t hear them complaining - believe me, they are more stoical and patient than anyone in the UK would be if they lost property or were without power for weeks on end because of extreme weather events..

Surely you are not suggesting that people shouldn’t not live in Tornado Alley either ( ie Oklahoma, Kansas, Sth Dakota etc) because their homes may be destroyed by an F3?

I think a bit of realism is needed here - it’s one thing to choose not to go on holiday during the peak hurricane season and another to relocate to another part of the US when your entire livelihoods and family are tied to the local area.
100 years is common in the grand scale of things, and it seems every couple of months there seems like some incoming hurricane or whatever, it just seems somewhere I would avoid, no amount of sunshine makes that pay off for the chance of our home being destroyed.
The flooding that is occurring in parts of Florida are 1 in 1,000 years - not that is relevant tbh as it doesn’t lessen the impact..

The hurricane season effects States all around the Gulf of Mexico - From Texas (Hurricane Harvey) , to Louisiana,(Hurricane Katrina) right round to the Florida panhandle (Irma, Helene, Milton) - and on the East coast too from storms developing in the Atlantic that turn before entering the Gulf - The impacts of these storms are felt 100s of miles away, with devastating flooding associated with storm surges and heavy rain often causing a massive loss of agricultural animal stock, property and loss of human life - 2 million people in the State of Florida are currently under flash flood warnings.

It is a myth to think Atlantic hurricanes only effect parts of Florida and only people in the direct path of a hurricane are impacted. Georgia, South and North Carolina are also often heavily impacted from severe flooding from the extreme rainfall and tornadoes these hurricanes can bring with them. Hurricane Sandy on the Eastern seaboard was pushing out tropical storm conditions on its outer bands stretching 1,150 miles wide and impacted 24 States.

Not everyone can afford homes insurance or have alternatives if their livelihoods and properties are destroyed - millions of Americans are born in these regions under the poverty line and are not socially mobile so more often than not, have no choice where they live.

These storms are not increasing but they are intensifying more rapidly and are getting larger and it is only predicted to get worse as the seas of the Gulf and Atlantic continue to rise above normal average temperatures.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Withdean area
All the newscasts I've seen, the person behind the mike was in water only up to his/her ankles.

But then, would they have risked drowning or electrocution to bring a landmark broadcast to the American people?

Moving water at knee height will wash someone away.

They’re standing on higher ground, finding somewhere with 2” of water for effect.
 


A1X

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Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Withdean area
You may think a Cat 2/3 is a ‘storm in a teacup’ but the people that have lost everything, including loved ones and pets in this storm won’t think that.

I (like other NSC members probably) have family living in Huston that was devastated by Hurricane Harvey, I also have family living in Atlanta Georgia that was impacted by extreme flooding and loss of life from Helene. Are you suggesting people should not live and work in Florida or Georgia? Or Texas? People do live with the risk because more often than not have to - but they have lived with hurricanes for years and are hardened to them - you don’t hear them complaining - believe me, they are more stoical and patient than anyone in the UK would be if they lost property or were without power for weeks on end because of extreme weather events..

Surely you are not suggesting that people shouldn’t not live in Tornado Alley either ( ie Oklahoma, Kansas, Sth Dakota etc) because their homes may be destroyed by an F3?

I think a bit of realism is needed here - it’s one thing to choose not to go on holiday during the peak hurricane season and another to relocate to another part of the US when your entire livelihoods and family are tied to the local area.

The flooding that is occurring in parts of Florida are 1 in 1,000 years - not that is relevant tbh as it doesn’t lessen the impact..

The hurricane season effects States all around the Gulf of Mexico - From Texas (Hurricane Harvey) , to Louisiana,(Hurricane Katrina) right round to the Florida panhandle (Irma, Helene, Milton) - and on the East coast too from storms developing in the Atlantic that turn before entering the Gulf - The impacts of these storms are felt 100s of miles away, with devastating flooding associated with storm surges and heavy rain often causing a massive loss of agricultural stick, property and loss of human life - 2 million people in the State of Florida are currently under flash flood warnings.

It is a myth to think Atlantic hurricanes only effect parts of Florida and only people in the direct path of a hurricane are impacted. Georgia, South and North Carolina are also often heavily impacted from severe flooding from the extreme rainfall and tornadoes these hurricanes can bring with them. Hurricane Sandy on the Eastern seaboard was pushing out tropical storm conditions on its outer bands stretching 1,150 miles wide and impacted 24 States.

Not everyone can afford homes insurance or have alternatives if their livelihoods and properties are destroyed - millions of Americans are born in these regions under the poverty line and are not socially mobile so more often than not, have no choice where they live.

These storms are not increasing but they are intensifying more rapidly and are getting larger and it is only predicted to get worse as the seas of the Gulf and Atlantic continue to rise above normal average temperatures.

Ignore right wing thick as mince trolls.
 


kevo

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Mar 8, 2008
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Just been reading about the 'great storm' of 1987, apparently it reached 115mph in Shoreham - matching the speeds being seen in Florida?!
 








Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Born In Shoreham
Just been reading about the 'great storm' of 1987, apparently it reached 115mph in Shoreham - matching the speeds being seen in Florida?!
I slept through that like a baby which annoyed me as all my mates were out experiencing getting blown down the street.
 


kevo

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Mar 8, 2008
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I slept through that like a baby which annoyed me as all my mates were out experiencing getting blown down the street.
I remember waking in the night because the windows were rattling and thinking 'it's a bit breezy out there', lol.
 






Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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Just been reading about the 'great storm' of 1987, apparently it reached 115mph in Shoreham - matching the speeds being seen in Florida?!
Gusts in Milton were up to 185mph.

Speeds in the tornadoes at the leading edge of Milton, could have been higher still.
 


Yoda

English & European
Just been reading about the 'great storm' of 1987, apparently it reached 115mph in Shoreham - matching the speeds being seen in Florida?!
And that is what was only recorded before the power went out. They think some gusts exceeded that for a time, but that storm was the equivalent of a Cat 3 Hurricane with those wind gust speeds.
 


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