Benny Seagull
Active member
unfortunately, chappers, this is exactly what the majority of people are.
to be honest i quite liked the idea but the execution has been piss-poor.
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X Factor v Rage Against the Machine
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unfortunately, chappers, this is exactly what the majority of people are.
to be honest i quite liked the idea but the execution has been piss-poor.
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
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I agree Max. In fact I hope X-Factor get Xmas number one just to piss these people off. Let's start a campaign to try and get people who don't like cynical RATM marketing ploy to buy the X-factor song instead, we could even start a Facebook group.
Actually let's not, only a f***ing idiot would do such a thing
S'hampton Seagull
Well-known member
If (when) the X Factor winner is Xmas No.1, it will have made no difference.
Bluejuice
Lazy as a rug on Valium
Also I don't get the significance of RATM, other than that it's a shouty sweary track which is kind of different to most Christmas singles from that list of the last 20 odd years of Christmas number ones. It seems to me as if some angry teenager with every Rage album in his CD collection decided to kick up a fuss and get his favourite band some hype in the absence of the band themselves actually doing anything to warrant attention.
I suppose the line "f*** you I won't do what you tell me" is kind of like a snipe at the overcommercialised Cowell-fuelled pop industry but other than that it's hardly the "anti-Christmas" which is surely what the scheme really calls for. In fact you could argue that this has already been achieved with the Pogues' Christmas song which doesn't fit the stereotype and yet makes a fortune from Christmas royalties each year.
I think to really beat the X Factor brigade at their own game a massive viral campaign showing the plight of some poor, dying young girl whose family have all died in tragic circumstances would be the best course of action. Her last dying wish to make it to Christmas number one, in a nod to all the overemotional scenes in X Factor auditions when some plucky upstart struggles through grief and heartache to make it one round further before disappearing once the tug on the heartstrings story has been told.
Now THAT, that might have worked.
This however just looks like an excuse for "alternative" oiks all over the land to squeal with delight at their parents on Christmas morning that the word f*** is used in the song that's made it to Christmas number one, meaning it's officially ok to say it at the dinner table over the Turkey with granny.
My prediction: I don't care
I suppose the line "f*** you I won't do what you tell me" is kind of like a snipe at the overcommercialised Cowell-fuelled pop industry but other than that it's hardly the "anti-Christmas" which is surely what the scheme really calls for. In fact you could argue that this has already been achieved with the Pogues' Christmas song which doesn't fit the stereotype and yet makes a fortune from Christmas royalties each year.
I think to really beat the X Factor brigade at their own game a massive viral campaign showing the plight of some poor, dying young girl whose family have all died in tragic circumstances would be the best course of action. Her last dying wish to make it to Christmas number one, in a nod to all the overemotional scenes in X Factor auditions when some plucky upstart struggles through grief and heartache to make it one round further before disappearing once the tug on the heartstrings story has been told.
Now THAT, that might have worked.
This however just looks like an excuse for "alternative" oiks all over the land to squeal with delight at their parents on Christmas morning that the word f*** is used in the song that's made it to Christmas number one, meaning it's officially ok to say it at the dinner table over the Turkey with granny.
My prediction: I don't care
sten_super
Brain Surgeon
What do you mean 'the execution'? It was a facebook group started by a couple of guys, which currently has over 500k members and has attracted an absolute shit load of media attention. They had absolutely no idea when they started it that it would garner such attention. What exactly has been piss-poor about it?
Ultimately, it's about people pissed off with x factor and their complete domination of the charts trying to do something about it. I accept that it probably isn't the best way to go about it, or that it's not really even that much of a cause, but at least they are trying to do something about an issue that they care about. I don't see why that warrants such abuse or dismissal. Fair play to them I say.
Bluejuice
Lazy as a rug on Valium
clippedgull
Hotdogs, extra onions
Probably the same idiots that started the 'Hallelujah' campaign last year by getting people to buy the original which turned out that the rights had been bought by Simon Cowell! So he cashed in twice. There are some gullible looneys out there!
If you like either record buy it, simples. Don't be led by the mob
Benny Seagull
Active member
granted they probably didn't know how mental it would get but in hindsight it would have been nice to pick a less predictable song with a charitable cause. or anything that doesn't involve simon cowell!
obviously in hindsight that's very easy for me to say.
Mendoza
NSC's Most Stalked
So Cowell is going to cash in on a couple hundred thousand Joe/Stacey/Olly records, as well as a couple of hundred thousand RATM sales too
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Whoah, slow down everyone, it was only meant as a bit of fun. If you're not keen then, hey, don't bother.
Bluejuice
Lazy as a rug on Valium
i don't read your posts, they bore me usually.
Who said that?
Horton's halftime iceberg
Blooming Marvellous
Idoits guide please,
Where do I have to download the Rage single to try and make it no 1
When should this be done
And even better 'whats it called'
Where do I have to download the Rage single to try and make it no 1
When should this be done
And even better 'whats it called'
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- #55
Idoits guide please,
Where do I have to download the Rage single to try and make it no 1
When should this be done
And even better 'whats it called'
1. HMV, itunes, many others
2. 14 - 19 Dec
3. 'KILLING IN THE NAME OF'
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Horton's halftime iceberg
Blooming Marvellous
Thank you for that, I presume this is what I will get for my pay pal pennys. Is it an old track it sounds farmiliar or is that just all Rage tracks have a formula.
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Bluejuice
Lazy as a rug on Valium
It is old.
It hasn't been re-released.
These kids just chose it for reasons I can only speculate to, as I have done above.
In the internet era with downloads counting towards chart positions any song has a chance of making it into the chart regardless of its age and release date.
It hasn't been re-released.
These kids just chose it for reasons I can only speculate to, as I have done above.
In the internet era with downloads counting towards chart positions any song has a chance of making it into the chart regardless of its age and release date.
Twinkle Toes
Growing old disgracefully
Surely not! I bought it the day it came out - & I could've sworn it was only last year or so..
ps Does my original RATM purchase count towards the Christmas No 1 bid? If not, I might just start kickin-off in South-Central Hove izzit. To HELL with Coffee Mornings: & I jolly well won't be doing what Daphne suggests, thank you very much. 'Ballet In The Head' the lot of them. Marvelous!
Bluejuice
Lazy as a rug on Valium
Are you familiar with Nickelback?