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West Ham win Olympic stadium bid







Prettyboyshaw

Well-known member
Feb 20, 2004
1,104
Saltdean
Good, Spurs should not even have been considered as they are no where near the area. It should stay as a multi purpose sport stadium for athletics events and a local football team like West Ham if they want a running track around the pitch.
 




ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,585
Just far enough away from LDC
I think we might have had a satisfactory outcome if the Spurs bid had instead been a joint proposal from West Ham and Orient, where the upper tier could be tarped off (which works to good effect in some North American stadiums).

Once again Simster you've hit the nail on the head.

I have no issue with west ham being there and I have no issue with orient being there either. In reality track and field athletics is (from a spectator point of view) a minority sport in the UK that benefits from 2 or 3 good international meetings each year plus one Golden league night, plus some good indoor competitions. There are some fantastic smaller athletics arenas in the Uk (meadowbank, gateshead, sheffield and birmingham) that can support many of these with the biggest events being held at the olympic stadium. So yes, athletes may be only using the track competitively during summer months whilst football isn't on but we do need a site that can be potentially used for future european and world championships (Picket's Lock debacle anyone).

As for the seating issue, in many other countries (Spain, Italy, Greece, Rome and Germany*) their main athletics stadia have held major club football in recent years with no sight issues or loss of atmosphere. Not all athletics stadia are as poorly designed (from a turning it into a multi use venue perspectice ) as Withdean.

We also have to accept that public perception after winning the games, led to a significant downsizing or the budget to build stadia, and £100m was taken from the budget for the main stadium which was enough to have delivered the integrated hospitality and catering facilities (and roof) that the new tenant will have to add PLUS the retractable seating option. yes it was done on the (relative) cheap but it's what the public and our cynicism wanted.

* note I didn't include Paris as they did design correctly with retractable seating over the track.
 


Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patron
Jul 16, 2003
58,589
hassocks
Brilliant news.

I do wonder how the public will feel having a white elephant there in about 10 years though, West Ham dont fill Upton Park and moan the pitch is too far away from the pitch.

I would suggest before having a East End knees up they should visit Withdean
 






May 2, 2010
345
there are lots of questions that still remain unanswered to this day,if the obsession of a post Olympic legacy was to keep the stadium yet only one Grand Prix athletic event in the south is ever held and apparently it loses money and obviously can only be held in the summer and what benefit would the another legacy have been to rip down the stadium and leave a 25k stadium that would have been of little use to any one,the final question is that if WHU move into the OS with a track averaging 30k a game that will surely spell the end for them and Orient?
 


bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
How the Hell are Newham Boro going to give the Hammers a loan to help with the developement? Hardly the right time for Local Authorites to be helping out Football clubs with low rate loans.

I agree, THANK GOD FOR FALMER AND THANK FCUK FOR TONY BLOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Abso bloody Lootlee ! Sullivan and Gold have been trying to sell this notion of being saviours of West Ham but they are clearly very reluctant to use their own money it would seem. I sincerely hope they tell these two where to go.
 




Noldi

New member
Sep 5, 2010
308
Horsham
So our championship spec stadium has a capacity of 22,000 and cost under £50 million and we play West Ham in a 80,000 seater stdium costing around £550 million (10 x Falmer).

Strange

Noldi
 
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Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,148
On NSC for over two decades...
So our championship spec stadium has a capacity of 22,000 and cost under £100 million and we play West Ham in a 80,000 seater stdium costing around £550 million (5 x Falmer).

Strange

Noldi

There you go, I've corrected your post - Falmer is costing about £93 million the last I heard, thanks Tony Bloom!
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,155
Location Location
Karen Brady wants to "re-brand" them as West Ham Olympic.

Nice.
 


churley1

New member
Oct 13, 2009
1,089
Bogota
Good news for Palace surely ?

Olympic stadium (with West Ham) becomes the national Athletics venue and Palace can redeveloped er.. Crystal Palace.

With spurs out the way I'd imagine they are over the moon.

Personally I don't think either should have been allowed to move there. Probably controversial, but I took time to read Spurs proposals and in my opinion Athletics probably got the better deal, albeit away from the Olympic Park.

Under the West Ham proposals inevitably Athletics will become the lodger at a Premiership Ground. Under the Spurs proposals they would have ended up with a nice place of their own, where there has always been a venue.

Blatant stupidity and bloody mindedness has led to this. If only they had designed the original stadium with a retractable lower tier.

Now West Ham fans can look forward to a Withdean experience.

Yep it should mean we can kick on with redeveloping Crystal Palace Park. Obviously looking at the laughable opposition to Falmer, it won't be easy but the Spammers keeping the running track really does mean CPP is effectively pointless as an athletics stadia.

We just have to get the local tenants on board now, Palace vs Brighton 2015, complete sell out in both grounds would be nice!
 


Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,309
Worthing
I would like to see World and European athletics championships held in this country and even a couple of big grand prix events as well. We had to pull out of the 2015 World Champs bid because of the Olympic stadium arguments but we can bid again for 2017. That`s what the plan was, to leave a legacy to athletics and hosting major championships and not demolishing it or giving it over to a club to knock down and start again with. We wouldn`t even have got the Olympics if we had said beforehand that we were going to change things like have been discussed on here.
If WHU want to take it as it is but it remain a world class athletics centre then all well and good but as for giving them handouts..... eff off, let them sell some more porno mags.
 




Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,093
In 3 years time I can see Spurs in a bright new shiny stadium adjacent to White Hart Lane and West Ham playing Championship football to a one-third full soulless Olympic stadium complete with running track.
 




gjh1971

New member
May 7, 2007
2,251
there are lots of questions that still remain unanswered to this day,if the obsession of a post Olympic legacy was to keep the stadium yet only one Grand Prix athletic event in the south is ever held and apparently it loses money and obviously can only be held in the summer and what benefit would the another legacy have been to rip down the stadium and leave a 25k stadium that would have been of little use to any one,the final question is that if WHU move into the OS with a track averaging 30k a game that will surely spell the end for them and Orient?

Youve won the prize for longest sentence ever
 


Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
I try to be a reasonable man but whichever way I hold it up to the light this is a classic example of a bunch of arrogant millionaires trading under the name of "West Ham United" destroying a proud third tier League football club by parking their tanks on someone else's lawn. Think back 20 years - how would we have liked it if a bunch of Premiership wide boys - Palace for example - had rocked up with a huge new stadium on the other side of Hove Park, clearly visible from the Goldstone? No difference. If Brighton supporters of all people don't care about Orient's fate then I despair.
 






seagullsoverlincoln

New member
Jul 14, 2009
521
One of the saddest things is its going to be another example of the pityful running of our national sport, as West Ham are allowed to flout current regulations,at the expense of a lower league club.

You've got to feel for Orient fans.
 


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