Vicente out of squad for Burnley

[Don Quixote]

Billy Sharp would be on less wages than this clown.

 

[Mellotron]

Worth keeping til the end of the season just for the potential he has. Stupid to get rid, not like he's keeping anyone out of the team or anything.

If Tony thinks he's worth the gamble, I'm with him.

 

[Commander]

Said before and say again , get rid

He's on a one year contract, what do you want us to do?

 

[Rugrat]

Said before and say again , get rid

Get rid where? He's on contract and one assumes we'd just pay it up? That being the case may as well keep him and see if we can get any sort of return, unlikely as it may seem

 

[simon swagbag]

Does he turn up on a matchday? Like, you know, sit with the other squad players?
To me that would be an indicator of his commitment.

 

[algie]

Worth keeping til the end of the season just for the potential he has. Stupid to get rid, not like he's keeping anyone out of the team or anything.

If Tony thinks he's worth the gamble, I'm with him.

I very much doubt Tony has any input in team affairs.

Pointless paying up the rest of his contract when it's due to expire in 6 months time. Thank god it was only a year deal.

 

[aolstudios]

This is made up.

yep

 

[seagullondon]

If we get Liverpool in the FA cup 4th round you watch him become fit again for this game

 

[Mellotron]

I very much doubt Tony has any input in team affairs.

Pointless paying up the rest of his contract when it's due to expire in 6 months time. Thank god it was only a year deal.

I was referring to the money side of affairs. I don't reckon Gus just went out and got Vicente without discussing the money side of things with Tony. They seem to have a very close relationship on that sort of thing.

 

[MattBackHome]

Still early days on a gamble that, if it comes off, could prove to be decisive against some of the better teams in this division. Yeah it's frustrating (every week), but he's still well worth the punt. In my opinion...

 

[LABHA]

Billy Sharp would be on less wages than this clown.

Agreed,and we would get more than 10---12 games out of Sharp also

 

[aolstudios]

Indeed, I'm all for mindgames, but they are taking the piss a bit. Official site "Hoskins is an injury doubt for Middlesbrough" - Naylor "I've just spoken to Will Hoskins and he's confirmed he's damaged knee ligaments, out for 6 weeks"

true, doesn't do the players concerned any favours at all

 

[The Large One]

Groins and calfs and thighs and shin, thighs and shin
Groins and calfs and thighs and shin, thighs and shin
He's not fit enough to be a hypochondriac
Groins and calfs and thighs and shin, thighs and shin

Repeat until drunk

 

[Beach Hut]

Another Kitson signed then

 

[aolstudios]

He's only 30, I wouldn't say he is coming to the end of his career, unless he really cant get fit again. The homesickness thing is complete speculation, it's just been made up. I am reserving judgment until the end of the season. So far we've got 4 games and 1 goal out of him. If he comes good in the New Year and makes another 15 appearances and 5 goals, then he was a worthwhile siging, as long as he isn't on silly money, which I cant imagine he is. If we can get him fit enough to play 2 out of every 4 games then he can make a major impact. Like Ledley King does for Spurs.

exactly

 

[aolstudios]

I think the club should make an official statement. It's one thing holding off from news a day or two before a game to have the opposition speculating but these "long term" things are widely published by clubs as there's little point in not doing so. I can't deny that the mystery and secrecy seems bloody strange.

strange, true. But they do it with every bloody injured player

 

[JonathanLivingstonSeagull]

If it IS in his head then I sympathise. The thing about people who have injuries or illnesses in their head is that it is TOTALLY real to them and also very upsetting to be told it's 'all in your head' because they experience no real control over it. This is speaking as someone who has endured bouts of hypochondria to varying degrees. I think it starts as a kernel or flash of negative thought, more or less undetectable, which then manifests physically through some self-abnegating interplay within the psyche of the individual. The conscious mind then only understands to be able to deal with

a) the real physical pain the individual experiences
b) the increasing fear of increasing or enduring illness/injury

this creates a negative cycle in the individuals mind also. i wouldn't be surprised if whilst vicente is playing a little voice in his head says to him now and then - 'i bet playing this game'll cost me' and hey presto... it does.

once it gets started it's very hard to stop ime... personally i was made doubly worse by being CERTAIN that i wasn't the kind of person to be so STUPID as to end up with bouts of mind-led (covertly remember) or imagined illness or anxiety. the doctor couldn't tell me SHIT for months... until i slowly calmed down / perked up.

often it is outside factors that trouble the person and their anxiety manifests in these other ways

i'd say with vicente it is possible he has got the idea in his head that football could leave him physically damaged permanently if he overdoes it after an original injury or two, and unfortunately he has a hypochondriacs response. maybe it won't clear up until he stops playing, that might be the trigger factor in his head... which is of course rather a pain in the shitbox for a professional footballer.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Maybe he's earning his money with his coaching and tactics input and showing our youngster's better techniques, positioning etc

Does he speak much English? If not, I would imagine his input would be very limited.

 

[Blues Rock DJ]

Does he turn up on a matchday? Like, you know, sit with the other squad players?
To me that would be an indicator of his commitment.

said before, say again, yes he does .

 

[Napper]

He's on a one year contract, what do you want us to do?

Yeah guess not as simple as just getting rid.

Shame its not.