[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[pocketseagull]

This part stood out for me

I was made aware of multiple examples of a lack of respect and poor treatment of security and cleaning staff. This was unacceptable.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

ABBA party not investigated as the police got involved.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

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[A1X]

Awfully convenient that the party in his flat hasn't been investigated as part of this, isn't it?

 

[A1X]

This part stood out for me

Tories being beastly to those they regard as their underlings? Shurely shome mishtake.

 

[nicko31]

It would appear the police witnessed a party after someone accidentally triggered an alarm. Nothing to suggest they acted?

 

[Stato]

Anyone volunteering to read it and summarise?

https://assets.publishing.service.g...RMANENT_SECRETARY_INTO_ALLEGED_GATHERINGS.pdf

At a brief glance it would seem that the police investigation spiked the guns of this investigation. Useful to Johnson, because he had promised to make this one public, but couldn't promise to make the police investigation public. There's nothing there that will force his resignation or further letters to Graham Brady.

However, Johnson is now politically a dead man walking. It doesn't currently suit the Tory party to put him out of his misery, but it will come when the time suits. Theresa May was gone from the point that she threw away her small majority in the 2017 election, but it took another couple of years of indecision and manoeuvring before Johnson and his cronies were ready. This time it will take even longer because there is no obvious successor. However, he is now a lame duck. Despite his large majority, his first, second and third priorties will be keeping his backbenchers sweet. He has been condemned by significant factions on the left and on the right and everybody who hasn't condemned him will be jostling for future position, either harbouring ambition to succeed him, or looking for personal advantage from backing the right horse in the race to succeed him.

 

[pb21]

ABBA party not investigated as the police got involved.

Awfully convenient that the party in his flat hasn't been investigated as part of this, isn't it?

Did the police actually investigate this, we know there are some parties that they didn't?

 

[rippleman]

Because "totally independent" Sue Gray recently met with Johnson and no minutes have been published of what was discussed at that meeting, I can only conclude that she was "persuaded" to remove any direct criticism of Johnson from her report. It is either:-

a) There was never any direct criticism in the report putting specific blame on the PM in which case she was incompetent

or

b) There was criticism of the PM and she was made to remove it. After all he is her boss. In which case she was corrupt.

Off to the House of Lords no doubt. Sadly, the corruption, lies and incompetence runs deep. It was always going to end this way.

 

[Audax]

I've only looked briefly at the conclusions of the report. As expected, weak, wishy-washy and without any condemnation of the PM directly. Maybe that was the bit Gray was told to remove when she met with Johnson recently.

from the final paragraph:-

It is my firm belief, however, that these events did not reflect the prevailing culture in Government and the Civil Service at the time. Many thousands of people up and down the country worked tirelessly to deliver in unprecedented times.

The way I read that, is implied criticism of the culture allowed to develop at #10 specifically. Which makes it implied criticism of Boris. But so many won't see it that way, and it will be very easy for the Tories to gloss over.

 

[vegster]

Sounds like Tory MP'S have decided to abandon all their moral scruples and throw their full weight behind the convict...

Wonder when, if ever, they can face the fact they are keeping a liar and liability in place.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

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The WORST part is that the concerns were all PR, comms related… NOT ONE was concerned about passing on covid, SO WHY did they decide to terrify people into double masking and staying away from anyone with a sniffle?

 

[Machiavelli]

I am almost sure (because I posted a quote a few pages ago) that only two of the eight parties were investigated by the Met, one of which was the ambushed by cake.

It's worth adding that Sue Gray didn't investigate the party Carrie organised in the PMal flat on Cummings and Cain leaving. The party where Abba could be heard from some distance away.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Sounds like Tory MP'S have decided to abandon all their moral scruples and throw their full weight behind the convict...

Wonder when, if ever, they can face the fact they are keeping a liar and liability in place.

Indeed.

He has got away with this one. Tory MP’s and enough of the right wing press are firmly behind him.

It’ll be up to the electorate to remove him at the next general election? I’m not sure as Johnson seems to be expertly stoking the culture and Ukraine wars enough to make those not normally engaged in politics (pre-Brexit) very firmly in his camp. We might have many many more years of this criminal cretin.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Because "totally independent" Sue Gray recently met with Johnson and no minutes have been published of what was discussed at that meeting, I can only conclude that she was "persuaded" to remove any direct criticism of Johnson from her report. It is either:-

a) There was never any direct criticism in the report putting specific blame on the PM in which case she was incompetent

or

b) There was criticism of the PM and she was made to remove it. After all he is her boss. In which case she was corrupt.

Off to the House of Lords no doubt. Sadly, the corruption, lies and incompetence runs deep. It was always going to end this way.

Her brief was to find out what happened and she has. Her brief was not to apportion blame, that is for other people to do. Conclusion paragraph 3 is about as damning as you are going to find. If she is corrupt as you believe, she would have removed that paragraph.

 

[Bodian]

Much of the exchanges between organisers of the events was not about whether it was allowable, or correct - but about how it would look in 'comms'.

ie: they were only really interested in getting away with it.

 

[Bry Nylon]

An arrogant disregard for common decency and rules
Booze everywhere
No:10 Downing St trashed with a sense on impunity and entitlement
People too incapable to even get themselves home
Security staff and cleaners abused when they attempted to intervene

It's almost as if our Prime Minister is an alumni of the Bullingdon Club and has brought that culture into the heart of government.

 

[Fignon's Ponytail]

Not many people wind me up...but bloody hell I want to punch that fat sack of sh1t right in the middle of his lying, gormless, delusional, saggy face.
Utterly shameful performance from the PM today.

 

[pb21]

Her brief was to find out what happened and she has. Her brief was not to apportion blame, that is for other people to do. Conclusion paragraph 3 is about as damning as you are going to find. If she is corrupt as you believe, she would have removed that paragraph.

Absolutely, its pretty clear she concludes that the Government leadership in the No10 office was an inexcusable and unacceptable failure, that wasn't reflected across wider Government and Civil Service.

It doesn't get anymore damming than that!

Some might be surprised to see Government leadership in the No10 office independently concluded to be an inexcusable and unacceptable failure, with Johnson leading, similarly, some might be surprised to learn that bears shit in the woods.

 

[Pevenseagull]

An arrogant disregard for common decency and rules
Booze everywhere
No:10 Downing St trashed with a sense on impunity and entitlement
People too incapable to even get themselves home
Security staff and cleaners abused when they attempted to intervene

It's almost as if our Prime Minister is an alumni of the Bullingdon Club and has brought that culture into the heart of government.

Good summary.

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