The BNP

[coventrygull]

Maybe you should try reading the article more carefully, its only European immigration they are objecting to so a defacto no-whites pro immigration party.

Thats why I said I would join a partyLIKE that. I am not blinkered in my views. Always willing to listen to what other parties have to say over various issues. I thought what the Dutch Socialist were saying is very interesting. I understand why people come here. I blame the system not the immigrants

 

[coventrygull]

So where did they go ? I suggest they just stopped overtly demonstrating their sympathies in an attempt to provide the party with a veneer of respectability. But for me it is only a veneer.

There are plenty of other parties and organisations that accomadate the Nutzis. I don't think you are aware of just how unpopular Griffin's BNP is amongst the extreme right

 

[User removed 4]

how many pages now? I'm still sniggering at Looney's wish for the country to be run by German migrants who are members of a middle-eastern cult.

oh how amusing, somebody pass the guardian job supplement, i need to look for a government sponsored non job.

 

[readingstockport]

20 pages. Congratluations everyone.

 

[Dandyman]

oh how amusing, somebody pass the guardian job supplement, i need to look for a government sponsored non job.

No worries, I'm paid by the poor and needy of SE1.

Where incidently do you think the Saxons and Christianity did come from?

 

[User removed 4]

No worries, I'm paid by the poor and needy of SE1.

Where incidently do you think the Saxons and Christianity did come from?

oh, how wonderfully worthy of you, one day you might actually work in a job that requires you to more than coast along with the odd " human resource strategy meeting " thrown in, and in answer to your question, er, germany and israel ?

 

[SeagullRic]

Does it really matter where people live? Too many people place far too much value on what country your living in.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

I don't think you are aware of just how unpopular Griffin's BNP is amongst the extreme right

I don't think I am. To me the BNP ARE the far right.

 

[readingstockport]

The BNP are the cuddly facists. People like ITP or whatever they are calling themselves now loathe griffin.

 

[coventrygull]

I don't think I am. To me the BNP ARE the far right.

Things have changed over the years. The Far right now see the BNP under Griffin as a civic Nationalist party.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

lets go round again, baby lets turn back the rest of time

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Things have changed over the years. The Far right now see the BNP under Griffin as a civic Nationalist party.

Agreed. The BNP is considered nowadays as middle of the road whose views would be more akin to those on the fringes of the Conservative right wing.

 

[looney]

Here's a quote from my earlier post.

The highest fertility in the Netherlands is in it's so called bible belt. (see http://www.cbs.nl/en-GB/menu/themas/...03-1269-wm.htm

The dutch population is only 5-6 % muslim and although only 17% identify as protestant some 40 % declare no religion. Source Netherlands Institute for Social Research 2007 survey.

So there are two arguments against this fact. 1st the highest birthrate is in Protestant areas. 2nd with Muslims making up under 6% of the population their fertilty rate would have to be 20 times that of the rest of the population to account for 50% of births.

The BNP supporters don't like the facts to get in the way of the scaremongering

Two erros youve made. Firstly what percentage of dutch live in the Bible belt to see what impact it has on overall figures?

Secondly it doesnt matter what the whole population make up is, it matters what the age cohort that breeds is.

If 90% of dutch are over 60 then you could safley remove them from the 95% population for example.

 

[looney]

No worries, I'm paid by the poor and needy of SE1.

Where incidently do you think the Saxons and Christianity did come from?

I said I was happy for the UK to remain Christian not that i desired it or did I make any reference to the monarchy.

I'm free enough to do as I please and would like that to be maintained. It wont be maintained while the UK allows mass immigration from pakistan of which about 15% have Taliban sympathies.

Its about quantity and quality. Remember when I schooled you about it being a myth rightwingers are pro- "Free-markets".

This is one free market you seem to be in favour of.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Two erros youve made. Firstly what percentage of dutch live in the Bible belt to see what impact it has on overall figures?

Secondly it doesnt matter what the whole population make up is, it matters what the age cohort that breeds is.

If 90% of dutch are over 60 then you could safley remove them from the 95% population for example.

I'm sorry Looney but before you try to dismiss the evidence, try finding something that backs up your argument. I was just pointing out how easy it is to find evidence which contradicts the far right myth of the islamisation of Europe.
Your come back, while a possiblity has no substance because there is no evidence to support it.

 

[looney]

I'm sorry Looney but before you try to dismiss the evidence, try finding something that backs up your argument. I was just pointing out how easy it is to find evidence which contradicts the far right myth of the islamisation of Europe.
Your come back, while a possiblity has no substance because there is no evidence to support it.

You haven't provided evidence to dismiss. Ive posted the type of stats you need to conclusivley debunk the BNP claim so why not produce them?

I'm not interested in validating the BNP here, I'm just wondering how much truth or falsehood there is in it and I haven't seen any proof yet.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

You haven't provided evidence to dismiss. Ive posted the type of stats you need to conclusivley debunk the BNP claim so why not produce them?

I'm not interested in validating the BNP here, I'm just wondering how much truth or falsehood there is in it and I haven't seen any proof yet.

Oh dear Looney, still trying to discredit the answer without providing a shred of evidence yourself

Lets revisit the first statitistic. The Muslim population of the Netherlands is under 6% of the total population, so the rate of births among that population has to be at least 16 times ( revisted the asthe maths)that of the rest of the population to back up the BNP claim. This isn't going to be explained away by slight differenceds in the age cohort, it would require a enormous disparity.Therefore the ball is in the court of you and your far right allies. Provide some evidence.

 

[readingstockport]

The whole point of the ignore button is so we can avoid looneys insane ramblings and his scatalogical fixations. Somewhat defeated if you all keep quoting his bollocks though unfortunately.

 

[Hungry Joe]

The whole point of the ignore button is so we can avoid looneys insane ramblings and his scatalogical fixations. Somewhat defeated if you all keep quoting his bollocks though unfortunately.

Trouble is there are other loonies out there who read looney's looney ramblings and unless someone shows them up for the lunacy they are they end up being complete loonies and believing them......the loonies.

 

[Dandyman]

I said I was happy for the UK to remain Christian not that i desired it or did I make any reference to the monarchy.

I'm free enough to do as I please and would like that to be maintained. It wont be maintained while the UK allows mass immigration from pakistan of which about 15% have Taliban sympathies.

Its about quantity and quality. Remember when I schooled you about it being a myth rightwingers are pro- "Free-markets".

This is one free market you seem to be in favour of.

To the best of my knowledge you've not schooled anybody about anything on this board - your "15%" figure which appears to be plucked from thin air tends to be the proof of your hot air approach.

The point about Christianity and the Saxons are that they are both external influences on this island which have had significant influences on our hsitory and culture. One could say similar things about the influence of the Normans or of Luther or Calvin.

You've also been on the board long enough to know that I have not advocated an "open door" immigration policy just one that is free from bigotry and myths.

I note for the record that you have now renounced your Libertarian stance and are now just the standard right-wing bullshit artist.