Serious disturbance in Enfield right now

[Pretty pink fairy]

Good call. Seeing the pictures I'd go for Skin-Deep Baddies Boogie. (Skin-Deep were a bloody great skin band)

Cockney Rejects " i am not a fool " or Sham69 " if the kids are united" followed by Borstal breakout

 

[beorhthelm]

What I don't understand is if police marksmen are highly trained, highly accurate with a wealth of technology at their disposal, why do they have to kill people. Surely a Tazer or some other kind of non fatal weapon could be used. Why does the shot have to be fatal?

for a start, it doesnt have to be fatal and often wont be. you want to shot someon in the arm/leg then have them shot back, or shot someone nearby? you shot to stop, to incapacitate, which means aiming for the chest for maximum effect of impact. otherwise you'd go for head shots. tasers are only any good for short range and can be potentially fatal.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Seven Sisters Road isn't in Enfield.

really

 

[public school boy]

Allegedly...

What I don't understand is if police marksmen are highly trained, highly accurate with a wealth of technology at their disposal, why do they have to kill people. Surely a Tazer or some other kind of non fatal weapon could be used. Why does the shot have to be fatal?

There was a story over here of a frightened kid who pulled a knife while surrounded by police, they shot him dead. Surely there was another option?

Don't carry a gun or knife. Anyway, the policeman was cleared of shooting the frightened child you speak of as Dingo prints were found on the gun

 

[crasher]

really

Yes, really. Even for a Nazi, you're a bit dim.

 

[Laughing Gravy]

Its going to kick off everywhere. Nothing to do with politics or that guy getting whacked by plod. Just a good excuse to join in and rob.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Allegedly...

What I don't understand is if police marksmen are highly trained, highly accurate with a wealth of technology at their disposal, why do they have to kill people. Surely a Tazer or some other kind of non fatal weapon could be used. Why does the shot have to be fatal?

There was a story over here of a frightened kid who pulled a knife while surrounded by police, they shot him dead. Surely there was another option?

Because a taser is a short range weapon, only capable of deployment within 21 feet of the subject. The subject also has to be pretty much fully in view because both probes have to engage with them to work properly, so if only one connects because they're half hidden behind a wall or a car, it won't discharge. And it's no use from behind (say) a glass window.

The Americans use longer range taser rifles I believe (seem to recall one on trial being used in the Raoul Moat case?) but they're not approved here at the moment for whatever reason.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Yes, really. Even for a Nazi, you're a bit dim.

that one went straight over your head you doughnut

 

[brightonian finest]

Its going to kick off everywhere. Nothing to do with politics or that guy getting whacked by plod. Just a good excuse to join in and rob.

Fantastic, Sporadic disorder love it

 

[ChapManiA]

I bet the BNP are loving this.

 

[Slough Seagull]

Tottenham is between 55% and 60% white according to the last census. Just FYI, like. That includes those who class themselves as white British, white Irish and white "other" in the returns, I seem to recall about 9% were of white European (ie non British/Irish backgrounds).

10 years ago maybe...?

 

[crasher]

that one went straight over your head you doughnut

You find it easier with smilies don't you?

 

[Lady Whistledown]

10 years ago maybe...?

No idea, haven't been there for years, I just pulled the figures from the last census

Trying to find them again now...stand by...

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

You find it easier with smilies don't you?

why waste time typing

 

[1066familyman]

Wonder what the sentences will be when the dust settles ?

[yt]RWE9Jv3P2iA[/yt]

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

No idea, haven't been there for years, I just pulled the figures from the last census

Trying to find them again now...stand by...

how many do you reckon filled theirs out up there then

 

[Meade's Ball]

Because a taser is a short range weapon, only capable of deployment within 21 feet of the subject. The subject also has to be pretty much fully in view because both probes have to engage with them to work properly, so if only one connects because they're half hidden behind a wall or a car, it won't discharge. And it's no use from behind (say) a glass window.

The Americans use longer range taser rifles I believe (seem to recall one on trial being used in the Raoul Moat case?) but they're not approved here at the moment for whatever reason.

Can't we cannon protected small people holding tasers through windows to debilitate the armed?

I lived in Tottenham for a couple of years and it was a scary place. Obviously i am in no position to speak of the justice of an event i didn't attend, so i'll remain quiet on the shooting. It's a shame that in such events, though, that the greedy taint the message meant to be said with passion and belief. And that the media feed off of shattered police windows and magnify miniscule notions of social disorder more than the hardship that can sometimes provoke such stereotypically discivil action.

 

[crasher]

why waste typing time

Why waste our time at all?

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Here you go.

This applies to the borough of Haringey, not just Tottenham, by the way. Not sure if that makes a lot of difference as Haringey isn't exactly a rich area is it?

Population (2008 est.)
- Total 226,200
- Rank 60th (of 326)
- Density 19,799.1/sq mi (7,644.5/km2)

- Ethnicity[1]
47.6% White British
3.6% White Irish
14.1% Other White
1.4% White & Black Caribbean
0.8% White & Black African
1.2% White & Asian
1.3% Other Mixed
3.0% Indian
1.3% Pakistani
1.6% Bangladeshi
1.7% Other Asian
8.3% Black Caribbean
9.1% Black African
1.3% Other Black
1.5% Chinese
2.2% Other

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

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