[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[beorhthelm]

This has appeared on my LinkedIn feed;

why do people on interwebs have to find ulterior motives - Putin said he wants to recreate the Russian Empire. simples.

 

[Mellotron]

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[portslade seagull]

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They will have to make do with these in the meantime.

Or back to ponies seeing as Putin likes riding them

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Churchill & Roosevelt will be turning in their Graves

Johnson & Biden utterly spineless

Spot on

Regards
DF

 

[swindonseagull]

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No more late night surfing when the wifes gone to bed in Russia..

 

[Swansman]

why do people on interwebs have to find ulterior motives - Putin said he wants to recreate the Russian Empire. simples.

Except its not simples. If he "only" wanted to recreate the Russian Empire there would have been a lot easier former ex-Soviet states to invade.

Of course there is more than just geography to it... Ukraine is valuable. Putin is not doing it for the world atlas... and similarly the West is not eager to westernize Ukraine just because of our alleged love for "freedom" and "democracy".

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Just do one, you complete muppet.

No

Regards
DF

 

[beorhthelm]

No more late night surfing when the wifes gone to bed in Russia..

Apparently a ship load of Volvos was turned around today.......

seriously, those sort of actions will make a serious impact to Sergey on the street.

 

[birthofanorange]

No

Regards
DF

The only thing you add is crass and ridiculous posts. Why not stay in the pit, where you do no harm?

 

[WATFORD zero]

Spot on

Regards
DF

Is there not one responsible adult anywhere on NSC who can put this **** out of his misery, or at the very least put everyone else out of their misery.

At least on this thread

 

[heathgate]

Is there not one responsible adult anywhere on NSC who can put this **** out of his misery, or at the very least put everyone else out of their misery.

At least on this thread

Hey mate,.. an alternate opinion is actually allowed,.... in the same way the Swan fills these threads with his pro Putin, anti west rhetoric, so DR deserves his moments of foolish infamy.

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[Neville's Breakfast]

why do people on interwebs have to find ulterior motives - Putin said he wants to recreate the Russian Empire. simples.

Yeah maybe. For added colour those figures were from Harvard Uni. Not some randomer.

 

[birthofanorange]

Hey mate,.. an alternate opinion is actually allowed,.... in the same way the Swan fills these threads with his pro Putin, anti west rhetoric, so DR deserves his moments of foolish infamy.

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He offers no 'opinions'....he offers nothing.

Example:

"Let's carry on building trans gender toilets

Regards
DF"

Do you consider this an alternate opinion?

 

[Bry Nylon]

He offers no 'opinions'....he offers nothing.

Well, based on what I’ve just read on the Mods WhatsApp group, I understand he won’t be offering anything further on this thread.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Hey mate,.. an alternate opinion is actually allowed,.... in the same way the Swan fills these threads with his pro Putin, anti west rhetoric, so DR deserves his moments of foolish infamy.

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Had he not been already banned from NSC for multiple occurrences of Racism, homophobia, glorification of football violence, holocaust denial, Nazi apologism and antisemitism, (the last few being the sort of things claimed in the Ukraine conflict) then I may have given him as much leeway as you

But I'm sure that has come as a surprise to you too

*edit* But I understand he cannot post those views on this thread anymore

Just on every other thread on NSC

 

[birthofanorange]

Well, based on what I’ve just read on the Mods WhatsApp group, I understand he won’t be offering anything further on this thread.

Good - it's bearable in the Pit, but not on this thread.

 

[pb21]

Hey mate,.. an alternate opinion is actually allowed,.... in the same way the Swan fills these threads with his pro Putin, anti west rhetoric, so DR deserves his moments of foolish infamy.

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They are posting about trans gender toilets FFS, on a thread about Russia invading Ukraine.

There's a ****ing invasion going on and someone is posting on a thread discussing various aspects/opinions of the invasion (some more unorthodox than others), the costs, implications and ramifications in a generally reasonable manner.

Then you get some utterly obnoxious **** attempting to derail the thread posting about trans gender toilets

 

[clapham_gull]

Well, based on what I’ve just read on the Mods WhatsApp group, I understand he won’t be offering anything further on this thread.

I knew it. A secret Mods WhatsApp group.

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[Thunder Bolt]

The only thing you add is crass and ridiculous posts. Why not stay in the pit, where you do no harm?

Just ignore him. The poor chap is frightened of unisex toilets. You have to feel sorry for him.

 

[raymondo]

There is simply no way Ukraine can sit down in aggresor country Belarus (Minsk) nor be a part of any talks on the false basis of "denazification".

Putin will NOT remove all his troops and leave Ukraine as sovereign as it was last week.

He will demand his land corridor, control of water to Crimea, enlarged puppet statelet of DNR/LNR including Mariupol.

That his proxy puppets can veto any federal decisions that will also include joining EU.

And to have no defence whatsoever, so if ever the puppets don't work, or he doesn't like anything, he can waltz back in un challenged. That's the end of sovereignty.

Plus it would give Putin a victory for what is
an unjustified and murderous attack of a peaceful nation on the basis of lies and fabrications.

And with so many Ukrainians having given their lives already to defend their nation, it would likely collapse the government anyway.

It's not possible.

That said, if talks were agreed in a neutral place on the basis of a temporary cease fire, they could try and rearm, rest a day or two.

Record the Russians lies, challenge them at the meeting about all their lies, murder of innocents and attack of an entirely peaceful nation. Get all that in the public domain.

Before fighting for every inch of ground, hand to hand if required to remove invading Putin troops from their country.

This is Putin's perfect scenario, they cannot give it him.

For sure, all of that. I of course wasn't suggesting a Ukrainian delegation should agree to go to Minsk.
On a personal note, I'm happy to say that our cousins have escaped from Kyiv and are 'safe' in an old dacha in the Carpathians after a 19 hour car journey.