[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[raymondo]

I remember an article from the Royal United Services Institute back in 2022. It suggested that as Russia was struggling in the ground war, we should expect it to develop alternative fronts - cyber warfare, sabotage, foment political unrest etc. How right they were.

Incoming.....

Yes, and plenty of politicians in Europe who are up for it sadly. Follow the money...

 

[Binney on acid]

Let's face it, most of Europe is at war with Russia. Modern warfare is not about boots on the ground. Like it or not, we are at war with Russia.

 

[Eric the meek]

Microsoft say that Russia is trying to disrupt the 2024 Paris Olympics. Note that some 'coffins' of French soldiers posted in Ukraine have already turned up.

Without looking at the evidence, I believe this. It's in the Wall Street Journal, but behind a paywall if anyone is interested.

 

[fly high]

Microsoft say that Russia is trying to disrupt the 2024 Paris Olympics. Note that some 'coffins' of French soldiers posted in Ukraine have already turned up.

Without looking at the evidence, I believe this. It's in the Wall Street Journal, but behind a paywall if anyone is interested.

France: Russia link suspected in Eiffel Tower coffin mystery

Officials believe Moscow could be behind a stunt in which coffins filled with plaster were left near the Eiffel Tower.

www.bbc.co.uk

Report on BBC suggests more to do with warning about dead French soldiers if France sent them to Ukraine.

 

[Eric the meek]

France: Russia link suspected in Eiffel Tower coffin mystery

Officials believe Moscow could be behind a stunt in which coffins filled with plaster were left near the Eiffel Tower.

www.bbc.co.uk

Report on BBC suggests more to do with warning about dead French soldiers if France sent them to Ukraine.

Apologies - you are quite right. I was trying to be brief and conflated the two things.

1. Microsoft warning of Russia liable to disrupt the olympics
2. Empty coffins found in Paris as a warning if French soldiers sent to Ukraine.

I've no reason to suggest the two are linked except that Russia is in the frame for both.

 

[fly high]

Apologies - you are quite right. I was trying to be brief and conflated the two things.

1. Microsoft warning of Russia liable to disrupt the olympics
2. Empty coffins found in Paris as a warning if French soldiers sent to Ukraine.

I've no reason to suggest the two are linked except that Russia is in the frame for both.

No problem, made me read the report properly so all good.

 

[peterward]

Apologies - you are quite right. I was trying to be brief and conflated the two things.

1. Microsoft warning of Russia liable to disrupt the olympics
2. Empty coffins found in Paris as a warning if French soldiers sent to Ukraine.

I've no reason to suggest the two are linked except that Russia is in the frame for both.

French terror inquiry after Ukrainian-Russian man detonates explosive materials in hotel

Man, 26, questioned under suspicion of participating in terrorist conspiracy after explosion in hotel north of Paris

www.theguardian.com

 

[Eric the meek]

 

[Eric the meek]

Remember that Russian offensive in May? The one that threatened Kharkiv?

David Axe says it has backfired spectacularly:

Putin’s ‘Victory Day’ offensive in northern Ukraine has backfired spectacularly

Biden finally unties the Ukrainians’ hands, and Belgorod comes under the hammer

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[sparkie]

Just heard France is seliing Mirage jets to Ukraine.

Good move.

We now need to let them have the Typhoons which are on our decommissioning list.

 

[crookie]

Just heard France is seliing Mirage jets to Ukraine.

Good move.

We now need to let them have the Typhoons which are on our decommissioning list.

Sure I read we were going to canabalise them for spares for the tranche 2 Typhoons

 

[raymondo]

Here's more about the French Mirage jets, plus other news

Ukraine war briefing: France to send Mirage fighter jets and train pilots

Sweeping power cuts continue due to strain on damaged grid; Biden stresses US weapons not for shooting at Kremlin. What we know on day 835

www.theguardian.com

 

[raymondo]

Not sure what's caused the energizing of Macron, but his increasing support for Ukraine is extremely welcome and crucial.

 

[papachris]

Not sure what's caused the energizing of Macron, but his increasing support for Ukraine is extremely welcome and crucial.

I think he can see as many of us can that Russia has to be be stopped in Ukraine. If they are allowed to win there they won't stop and then all Europe is in danger

 

[raymondo]

I think he can see as many of us can that Russia has to be be stopped in Ukraine. If they are allowed to win there they won't stop and then all Europe is in danger

Yes, I think that's it .
Macron is taking a very vocal leadership role in Europe now - until a couple of months ago he was pretty quiet.

 

[Binney on acid]

They’d all to well to listen to Kaja Kallas of Estonia. Europe’s policy of appeasing Russia’s psychotic Tsar clearly hasn’t worked.

 

[sparkie]

Not sure what's caused the energizing of Macron, but his increasing support for Ukraine is extremely welcome and crucial.

He is in his last permitted term of Presidency ( although he could in theory run again in 2032 ), and is in office until 2027 so he's got a pretty free hand to take a firm position if he wants.

 

[raymondo]

He is in his last permitted term of Presidency ( although he could in theory run again in 2032 ), and is in office until 2027 so he's got a pretty free hand to take a firm position if he wants.

that makes sense

 

[Flounce]

I think he can see as many of us can that Russia has to be be stopped in Ukraine. If they are allowed to win there they won't stop and then all Europe is in danger

An invasion of a NATO country would end in Armaggedon

 

[peterward]