[Albion] Palace Fans Biggest Fear

[eaglesdan]

Where is Guehi likely to go? He's nowhere near good enough for any of the big clubs and he's not going to be of much interest to the promoted clubs because 1. he's not strong enough defensively and 2. he won't want to go.

Hopefully plays well in the Euros, and attracts a bid from somewhere. With the new signing, and how well we performed in his absence, he would probably be the least missed of our "talents"

 

[Uh_huh_him]

My view, for what its worth, is similar to @loz in that its what happens these days. I thought we had turned a corner with cinch, but it seems we have gone back to the sordid world of betting / gaming. Be interesting to see what happens if Amex ever pull out of their sponsorship of both shirt and ground, as in what direction you would go. And without wanting to poke the wasps nest, doesnt Mr Bloom's money mainly come from Far East Gambling companies? Happy to be corrected if I am wrong

Most of Bloom's money originates from the gambling industry generally.

His major business now, is trading on far eastern gambling markets ( so taking money from them, not investing in them)

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Hopefully plays well in the Euros, and attracts a bid from somewhere. With the new signing, and how well we performed in his absence, he would probably be the least missed of our "talents"

agree with that.
A very good player, but he is definitely one of those players likely to attain a transfer fee greater than hos value to the club.

Olise and Eze's release clauses mean you are unlikely to get fees big enough to replace them.

 

[Wozza]

Be interesting to see what happens if Amex ever pull out of their sponsorship of both shirt and ground, as in what direction you would go. And without wanting to poke the wasps nest, doesnt Mr Bloom's money mainly come from Far East Gambling companies? Happy to be corrected if I am wrong

Relax. A 12-year deal was signed in 2019. Bloom ahead of the game (upcoming shirt gambling ban).

 

[The Fifth Column]

Most of Bloom's money originates from the gambling industry generally.

His major business now, is trading on far eastern gambling markets ( so taking money from them, not investing in them)

Strictly speaking thats not actually correct, he runs a data analysis company that services the betting industry however I'm led to believe that the bulk of his fortune is investing in large scale property development. No chickens or other animals are killed as far as I know..

 

[Giraffe]

My view, for what its worth, is similar to @loz in that its what happens these days. I thought we had turned a corner with cinch, but it seems we have gone back to the sordid world of betting / gaming. Be interesting to see what happens if Amex ever pull out of their sponsorship of both shirt and ground, as in what direction you would go. And without wanting to poke the wasps nest, doesnt Mr Bloom's money mainly come from Far East Gambling companies? Happy to be corrected if I am wrong

We seem to be cozying up to British Airways as a potential replacement.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Strictly speaking thats not actually correct, he runs a data analysis company that services the betting industry however I'm led to believe that the bulk of his fortune is investing in large scale property development. No chickens or other animals are killed as far as I know..

Nope.

StarLizard is his principal business, which trades on the fareast betting markets.

The business he set up for online bookmakers he sold off a long time ago.

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Tony Bloom and online gambling
With online gambling booming through the 2000s, Bloom decided to ride the wave. He set up a bookmakers specialising in his favoured Asian handicap system, which he went onto sell for £1.2 million in 2005. He also helped set up two gaming sites which both went onto be bought by blue chip organisations in performance-related deals worth up to $204 million. Like everything to do with Bloom’s wealth, how much he received from those sales is shrouded in mystery.

 

[nwgull]

My view, for what its worth, is similar to @loz in that its what happens these days. I thought we had turned a corner with cinch, but it seems we have gone back to the sordid world of betting / gaming. Be interesting to see what happens if Amex ever pull out of their sponsorship of both shirt and ground, as in what direction you would go. And without wanting to poke the wasps nest, doesnt Mr Bloom's money mainly come from Far East Gambling companies? Happy to be corrected if I am wrong

You don't need to worry about potentially vulnerable football fans getting drawn into an unsustainable gambling habit via Net88. The company doesn't actually have a functioning website where you can place a bet.

 

[Dougie]

I see work is beginning on the long awaited new ,state of the art, main stand. My biggest fear was they wouldn’t build it and you lot would constantly tease us about it .

 

[Uh_huh_him]

I see work is beginning on the long awaited new ,state of the art, main stand. My biggest fear was they wouldn’t build it and you lot would constantly tease us about it .

I thought it was just a copy of our west stand.
Is that still "state of the art"?

 

[dadams2k11]

I see work is beginning on the long awaited new ,state of the art, main stand. My biggest fear was they wouldn’t build it and you lot would constantly tease us about it .

What about the sponsor?

 

[JBizzle]

agree with that.
A very good player, but he is definitely one of those players likely to attain a transfer fee greater than hos value to the club.

Olise and Eze's release clauses mean you are unlikely to get fees big enough to replace them.

Even though it's Palace, I do think it's sad that after 3 months of genuine improvement and optimism, the moment they stop being total dross they potentially lose Eze and Olise, with Guehi highly thought of and Wharton only a good Euros away from being touted to every top club under the sun.

 

[Peppermint Tea]

I see work is beginning on the long awaited new ,state of the art, main stand. My biggest fear was they wouldn’t build it and you lot would constantly tease us about it .

Who cares, Dougal…

 

[Dougie]

What about the sponsor?

I don’t think a customer of a club owned by a professional gambler can get too high and mighty about that, Dave .
Anyhow we’re not allowed to mention said company.

 

[The Fifth Column]

Nope.

StarLizard is his principal business, which trades on the fareast betting markets.

The business he set up for online bookmakers he sold off a long time ago.

Copied from WeareBrighton.com

Tony Bloom and online gambling
With online gambling booming through the 2000s, Bloom decided to ride the wave. He set up a bookmakers specialising in his favoured Asian handicap system, which he went onto sell for £1.2 million in 2005. He also helped set up two gaming sites which both went onto be bought by blue chip organisations in performance-related deals worth up to $204 million. Like everything to do with Bloom’s wealth, how much he received from those sales is shrouded in mystery.

Starlizard IS a Sports data analysis company that services the betting industry, it's all there on their website albeit no-one can confirm how it makes most of its money. TBs property portfolio is extensive and worth eye-watering sums of money, his wealth is very diversified and not wholly reliant on gambling.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I see work is beginning on the long awaited new ,state of the art, main stand. My biggest fear was they wouldn’t build it and you lot would constantly tease us about it .

My word. A sensible post and honest as well. Shows you can do it.

 

[Wozza]

I don’t think a customer of a club owned by a professional gambler can get too high and mighty about that, Dave .

Even though Bloom does nothing to promote gambling to the public - unlike, say, your club?

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Starlizard IS a Sports data analysis company that services the betting industry, it's all there on their website albeit no-one can confirm how it makes most of its money. TBs property portfolio is extensive and worth eye-watering sums of money, his wealth is very diversified and not wholly reliant on gambling.

Star Lizard doesn't service the betting industry. You are making that assumption.
It places bets on behalf of it's investors.

Their analysis of sporting odds is superior to most bookmakers, enabling them to identify where there is "value" in a particular betting market.
They then place the bets to take advantage of that value.

Providing their data to bookmakers would undermine their core business.

Bleacher report

 

[dazzer6666]

Nope.

StarLizard is his principal business, which trades on the fareast betting markets.

The business he set up for online bookmakers he sold off a long time ago.

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Tony Bloom and online gambling
With online gambling booming through the 2000s, Bloom decided to ride the wave. He set up a bookmakers specialising in his favoured Asian handicap system, which he went onto sell for £1.2 million in 2005. He also helped set up two gaming sites which both went onto be bought by blue chip organisations in performance-related deals worth up to $204 million. Like everything to do with Bloom’s wealth, how much he received from those sales is shrouded in mystery.

Starlizard looks for value in quoted odds (ie where they think they have better intel than the bookies), using a large team of maths/stats geeks and computer and sports scientists. Starlizard clients benefit from those punts, and the company takes a performance fee (ie a cut of any profits) from the bets……….’Asian handicap’ is a betting term, not a geographical description of their market (although a high % of their clients are reportedly from the region).

 

[ThePaddy]

Even though it's Palace, I do think it's sad that after 3 months of genuine improvement and optimism, the moment they stop being total dross they potentially lose Eze and Olise, with Guehi highly thought of and Wharton only a good Euros away from being touted to every top club under the sun.

I think we're likely to lose at least one and possibly two of those players, but I'd be stunned if Wharton left the club so quickly (we'd be asking for a fee in Declan Rice territory under the circumstances) and I can't see Spurs shelling out >£60m for Eze's release clause.

Guehi is likely to go due to his contract situation and the fact that he is in the shop window at the Euros.

Olise will definitely leave if City etc. come calling, but I think we've got a decent chance of keeping him if it's only between us, Chelsea and United. They're obviously a step up, but he'll be trapping himself there for two or three years when he's arguably ready for Champions League football already. His agents are very shrewd operators, and might decide that another 6/12 months tearing it up with Palace is the quickest route to the top.

Even if we were to lose several players this summer, I don't think it'll dampen the mood at Palace too much. We'll be receiving £60m+ for any player we sell, and it would be very exciting to see what Freedman could do with a sizable transfer kitty. I have complete confidence in Dougie to manage the transition, whether it comes this summer or in the future.