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[chaileyjem]

Welbs was not fit! The complacency of you and your mate is frankly, laughable. And if you watched the game yesterday, or any last season, you would know that.


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Bit harsh BW and I’m hopeful Welbeck will play a useful role this season. But come off it - do you really think club haven’t noticed that a striker upgrade is a priority ?
Who on earth is going round bidding for strikers behind Potters back if not. ?
(And not buying the first striker we are “linked” to doesn’t imply we’re not in the market for one either).

 

[Jim in the West]

Indeed. Maybe controversial but I am fairly relaxed about our striking options. You are not going to guarantee 15 goals a season unless you fork out 50m and break the wage structure, so any signing is always a gamble.

The people excited and hoping we get this bloke are mad - as if signing from Scotland's second best team that have been utter gash in Europe for most of his time there is somehow a step up from signing from the Dutch, Belgian or Austrian leagues.

Our problems in front of goal are not entirely down to the lack of a 15 goal striker, plenty of others missed chances. I would be happy enough to start with a fit again Andone, Maupay with another season of experience and a rejuvenated Welbeck. Much better that than jizz another £17m on someone as shit as Locadia or (and I get no pleasure from saying this) Ali J.

Worth adding that Welbeck notched up 0.35 goals/game last season - ie, just over 13 for a full season. He cost circa £2m (if I understand things right, he bought out his contract at Watford, and we reimbursed him). Ollie Watson cost Villa £25m+, and his scoring rate/match is marginally above Welbeck's (14/season). Timo Werner cost £50m and had a record of one goal in five last season (7 for the full season). Obviously if you pay more, you should get more, but it's a bit of a lottery. There's lots of money to be lost by spending big on a striker.

 

[Don Tmatter]

What are the odds that a rival lower mid table PL sign him and he scores 8 -10 before Xmas?

 

[dangull]

Indeed. Maybe controversial but I am fairly relaxed about our striking options. You are not going to guarantee 15 goals a season unless you fork out 50m and break the wage structure, so any signing is always a gamble.

The people excited and hoping we get this bloke are mad - as if signing from Scotland's second best team that have been utter gash in Europe for most of his time there is somehow a step up from signing from the Dutch, Belgian or Austrian leagues.

Our problems in front of goal are not entirely down to the lack of a 15 goal striker, plenty of others missed chances. I would be happy enough to start with a fit again Andone, Maupay with another season of experience and a rejuvenated Welbeck. Much better that than jizz another £17m on someone as shit as Locadia or (and I get no pleasure from saying this) Ali J.

Let me see, strikers that Celtic have had recently. Henrik Larsson, Viduca, Moussa Dembele
Oh and that Van Dijk chap managed the step up to the Premier league without too many problems.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

We need a striker that would make the Connolly chance a certain a goal as the one Hagi scored,

Couldn’t agree more.

I still feel we need a pacer physical presence, although Maupay isn’t bad at protecting the ball, we need somebody with Murray like ability from that perspective.

 

[Baldseagull]

Let me see, strikers that Celtic have had recently. Henrik Larsson, Viduca, Moussa Dembele
Oh and that Van Dijk chap managed the step up to the Premier league without too many problems.

They had Henrik Larsson as recently as we had Leon Knight

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Let me see, strikers that Celtic have had recently. Henrik Larsson, Viduca, Moussa Dembele
Oh and that Van Dijk chap managed the step up to the Premier league without too many problems.

I believe the only footage available of Viduca playing for Celtic is in black and white.

 

[Frankworthington]

I believe the only footage available of Viduca playing for Celtic is in black and white.

Indeed!

And did Larsson and Dembele play in the Premier League?

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Indeed!

And did Larsson and Dembele play in the Premier League?

I think Larsson won it with Man Utd

 

[Wardy's twin]

Indeed!

And did Larsson and Dembele play in the Premier League?

Your right and no did those crap players like Messi and Mbappe etc.

 

[nwgull]

The days of Viduka and Larson at Celtic were a completely different era for Scottish football. The standard has definitely diminished since Rangers went bust 10 years ago.

 

[dangull]

Indeed!

And did Larsson and Dembele play in the Premier League?

Larsson did when he went on loan to Man Utd from Barcelona

 

[Machiavelli]

Worth adding that Welbeck notched up 0.35 goals/game last season - ie, just over 13 for a full season. He cost circa £2m (if I understand things right, he bought out his contract at Watford, and we reimbursed him). Ollie Watson cost Villa £25m+, and his scoring rate/match is marginally above Welbeck's (14/season). Timo Werner cost £50m and had a record of one goal in five last season (7 for the full season). Obviously if you pay more, you should get more, but it's a bit of a lottery. There's lots of money to be lost by spending big on a striker.

All his goals were from open play too.

 

[severnside gull]

All his goals were from open play too.

Sadly his historical fitness record means he isn’t remotely likely to actually reach that “full season” figure or anywhere approaching it

 

[peterward]

All his goals were from open play too.

And the one against Leeds, I just dont see, Connolly or Maupay ever doing that whole Cryuff turn and burying like Welbeck did...... the fella is a class above the others

 

[chaileyjem]

Sadly his historical fitness record means he isn’t remotely likely to actually reach that “full season” figure or anywhere approaching it

He missed 7 games (out of 32) due to injury last season.

 

[um bongo molongo]

He missed 7 games (out of 32) due to injury last season.

I also think Welbeck would be best playing left of a front 3, if we had a proper #9. It’s his best position, versus playing centrally, and where he’s played most his career (including with England). Signing a striker could be a big benefit to our existing players (I’m convinced Maupay would be better playing off a front man, Baldock style, as well).

 

[southstandandy]

Welbs was not fit! The complacency of you and your mate is frankly, laughable. And if you watched the game yesterday, or any last season, you would know that.


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I was being ironic you tool.

Obviously we all know know we need a striker and the fact Danny couldn't play yesterday was obviously of concern. Like everyone I'm hoping we'll find a gem in the next 5 weeks.

 

[Simster]

Welbs was not fit! The complacency of you and your mate is frankly, laughable. And if you watched the game yesterday, or any last season, you would know that.


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It's not a question of complacency, it's a question of practicality. It's all very well you talking like we absolutely have to have a striker but you've spent your NSC life moaning about needing to spend money on this person or that, and yet somehow without you spending someone else's money we seem to have rocketed up the league pyramid. Forgive me if I don't your accusations of complacency seriously, because you come across as someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. Sorry.

How would getting another striker in solve us missing two penalities in one game, or hitting the woodwork five times in one game? It probably wouldn't even solve the issue of us having an xG three times higher than actual goals every game.

 

[Steve Foster]

If only we could land ourselves with a marquee centre forward. It’s the hope that kills you. Three weeks to the season starts & we are relying on the same as last season. Yippee another 5th season being bottom 6?

Come on BHA hierarchy - bring us that striker